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Queen Mary’s LLM in Art, Business and Law and the Institute of Art and Law.
Show Notes:
1:00 Stephanie Drawdy - introduction
1:20 Emily Gould - overview of the Institute of Art and Law (IAL)
5:20 Gould’s background
7:35 careers in art law practice
9:35 Janan Foster - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM
11:35 Chiara Gallo - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM
15:40 Jane (Chang Yue) Liu - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL
18:40 Chelsea Conyers - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL
20:35 Gina McKlveen - experience as an artist, law student and now lawyer
27:40 Gould on IAL blog
28:40 Alan Robertshaw
29:10 McKlveen’s beginning interest in art and law
30:15 Jerry Alonzo’s experience in the law and arts
34:10 Charles Sabba’s experience in the military, law enforcement and the arts
43:05 Nnebundo Obi
44:45 Charles Sabba
45:40 Emily Gould re: interdisciplinary nature of art law cases
46:35 Alan Robertshaw’s law practice
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]
By Stephanie Drawdy5
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Send us a text
Please visit the following links to learn more:
Queen Mary’s LLM in Art, Business and Law and the Institute of Art and Law.
Show Notes:
1:00 Stephanie Drawdy - introduction
1:20 Emily Gould - overview of the Institute of Art and Law (IAL)
5:20 Gould’s background
7:35 careers in art law practice
9:35 Janan Foster - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM
11:35 Chiara Gallo - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM
15:40 Jane (Chang Yue) Liu - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL
18:40 Chelsea Conyers - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL
20:35 Gina McKlveen - experience as an artist, law student and now lawyer
27:40 Gould on IAL blog
28:40 Alan Robertshaw
29:10 McKlveen’s beginning interest in art and law
30:15 Jerry Alonzo’s experience in the law and arts
34:10 Charles Sabba’s experience in the military, law enforcement and the arts
43:05 Nnebundo Obi
44:45 Charles Sabba
45:40 Emily Gould re: interdisciplinary nature of art law cases
46:35 Alan Robertshaw’s law practice
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

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