In this first episode of the CarePro Podcast it's a double bill, with not one but two guests: Nadra Ahmed, chairman of the National Care Association, and Avnish Goyal, chair of Hallmark Care Homes.
Ahmed tells us what the care sector really needs from the government, the ins and outs of the National Care Association, and how it was to receive her CBE recently.
Goyal, meanwhile, breaks down what life is like for a man involved at the very top level of so many different care sector companies, charities and organisations, including his own Hallmark Care Homes, founded 26 years ago, as well as Championing Social Care, the Care Workers' Charity, Savista, Santhem Residences, Care England and many more.