When your beloved dog starts to age, it's natural to think about getting a puppy. That can work beautifully to shape the puppy, and to soften the inevitable loss. But it can also be tremendously challenging to fully support an aging senior while trying to meet the needs of a puppy. In this episode, we have a special guest: Kathy's co-author Helen St. Pierre, of the senior sanctuary "Old Dogs Go To Helen." In their new book "OLD DOG, NEW DOG," they combine Kathy's expertise in puppies with Helen's expertise in oldies, to create a roadmap for this classic, poignant moment in every dog lover's life. Join us for an in-depth conversation about strategies to set yourself, and your dogs, up for success. (The book is available in paperback, audio and kindle versions, wherever you like to buy your books.)