Carla shares her early birth experience that happened between the births of her two earthside babes. She shares the power of a woman listening to her intuition even in the midst of the unknown. Carla shares the impact her birth has had on her and her relationship, as well as how she honoured her sky babe in her postpartum. Lani gets very ranty, and we have a good chat about social bullshit and the patriarchy. It's a good listen.