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Carney meets Trump, and kids get abandoned at home


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In this episode of The Line Podcast, recorded before the Thanksgiving long weekend on October 10, 2025, your hosts Matt Gurney and Jen Gerson put forward something of an unusual episode.

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They start with a quick recap of some of the big political stories of the week. Mark Carney’s trip to Washington is at the top of the list — how it went, what it means, and why, even though they don’t have much criticism to offer, both Matt and Jen think time might not be on his side.

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From there, the podcast takes a different turn. In a long and emotional conversation, Matt and Jen talk about the ongoing Alberta teachers’ strike. They start with the logistics — how Jen and her family are coping — but the conversation quickly deepens into why she’s so angry and frustrated with everyone involved. She doesn’t go into detail about her family’s situation for privacy reasons, but what she says will likely resonate with thousands of parents who are just trying to do right by their kids in a system that refuses to make hard decisions because it would be politically incorrect to do so. The result? We are abandoning kids, and wasting their potential, because of adults who don't want to ever admit that they were wrong about anything.

It’s a different kind of segment — we admit it's not our usual content. But we think it’s worth your time. And we suspect a lot of parents out there have been waiting to hear someone finally say it.

Please enjoy, if that's the word, this unusual episode of The Line Podcast. Like and subscribe and all the rest. And just as a programming note, since it's the long weekend, we won't be publishing a dispatch. So we'll talk to you next week. Happy Thanksgiving to all!

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