At five feet tall, Amy Norman has periodically been misjudged or overlooked. Even after earning an MBA from one of the most prestigious business schools in the country, she was told she did not have enough gravitas.
She felt self-conscious using some stellar credentials to start a business focused on children, and every venture capital firm she spoke with turned her down. But she just kept going—for 14 years, 15 million units sold, and onto a successful sale of that company—the first of two she would found.
Amy is honest about how hard it was. She tells the women who want to become founders and come to her for advice that the idea that you can have it all—a high-growth company, a family, and all the time you'd want for other people and pursuits—is a myth. But you can, she insists, define what's most meaningful for you, then shape your life accordingly.
1:20 Amy describes her childhood moving between the US and the UK and how it shaped her worldview.
2:40 Amy’s first business, Little Passports, and its mission to expand children’s understanding of the world
3:30 Scaling to millions of units sold with a subscription model
4:00 Amy’s elite business pedigree (McKinsey, Wharton) and her unconventional entrepreneurial path
5:30 Realizing money was not her primary motivator, prioritizing purpose over prestige
6:30 A supervisor at McKinsey told her, “You don’t have enough gravitas”
10:30 The difficulty of raising venture capital for a children’s physical product business. What she did instead.
13:10 Facebook ads superchargers Little Passports’ growth
18:30 “Having it all” is a myth.
21:20 Exiting Little Passports
22:50 COVID was a boon to the business.
24:20 Selling a company is hard.
25:45 “I’m not a great employee.”
25:50 Founding Nellie Travel, a luxury travel advisory firm.
26:30 The value proposition of high-touch travel planning and personalized experiences
29:50 Acquiring customers
30:30 How geopolitical factors influence inbound and outbound travel patterns
34:20 Will Amy ever retire?