In this episode:

• Catherine Pakaluk joins the podcast to discuss her forthcoming book, Hannah’s Children, about women having large families amongst a culture of childlessness
• the limits of economic and family policy in reversing the falling birthrates, and what really drives our demographic decline
• Marlo and Catherine talk about the various joys and challenges that come with motherhood, both of one child and of many children

Texts Mentioned:

• Hannah’s Children: The Stories of Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth by Catherine Pakaluk
• The Birth Dearth by Ben Wattenberg
• “Jordan Peterson Interviews Presidential Candidate Vivek Ramaswamy”
• Coming Apart by Charles Murray
• Get Married by Brad Wilcox
• The Two Parent Privilege by Melissa Kearney

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