“We have to stand up for what’s right and we have to do that in an intersectional way. We can’t just stand up for our selves, we have to build that solidarity. We don’t have the numbers alone. If we work together we can actually accomplish change.” Liz Fong-Jones is a developer advocate, labor and ethics […]

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“We have to stand up for what’s right and we have to do that in an intersectional way. We can’t just stand up for our selves, we have to build that solidarity. We don’t have the numbers alone. If we work together we can actually accomplish change.”Liz Fong-Jones is a developer advocate, labor and ethics organizer, and Site Reliability Engineer (SRE) with 15+ years of experience. She is an advocate at Honeycomb.io for the SRE and Observability communities, and previously was an SRE working on products ranging from the Google Cloud Load Balancer to Google Flights.She lives in Brooklyn with her wife, metamours, and a Samoyed/Golden Retriever mix, and in San Francisco and Seattle with her other partners. She plays classical piano, leads an EVE Online alliance, and advocates for transgender rights as a board member of the National Center for Transgender Equality.

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Liz's WebsiteNational Center for Transgender EqualityTransgender Law CenterMeet Demma Rosa Rodriguez, Head of Equity Engineering at GoogleA Trans Woman Was Charged With 'False Personation' for Giving the NYPD Her Real NameThe NAACP Statement On the North Carolina Legislature's HB2 Repeal ProposalPosture Magazine 

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Kim Crayton:                        00:00                       Today's episode is supported by Tito. Tito is a design-led event software that makes it super easy to manage tickets for events. The product aims to be clean, simple and intuitive to use while the business aims to be sustainable at the go, driven by people and principles rather than growth at all costs. To learn more, visit their website at ti.ton/a:                                             00:24                       [music]Kim Crayton:                        00:42                       Welcome to the #causeascene podcast, the show focused on the strategic disruption of the status quo in technical organizations, communities and events.n/a:                                             00:53                       [music]Kim Crayton:                        00:55                       Hello everyone and welcome to today's episode of the #causeascene podcast. My guest today is someone I've been watching and following and have been admiring for a while, so I'm really excited about having her on the show. So I'll let her introduce herself.Liz Fong-Jones:                    01:09                       Hi, I'm Liz Fong-Jones and I am a developer advocate, Site Reliability Engineer, and an advocate for employee rights and for ethical product design.Kim Crayton:                        01:21                       So we're going to start this right off. And so could you tell me why is it important to cause a scene and how are you causing a scene, Liz?Liz Fong-Jones:                    01:28                       I think it's important to cause a scene because the status quo is just not working for some people. And I think that we have to make sure that the world is more fair and that means that we have to disrupt the status quo. And the way that I'm disrupting the status quo, in part, is if you all saw the Google Walkout from last November when 20,000 Google employees and contractors walked out of the Google offices worldwide to protest sexual harassment. What I want to see is I want to see more of that. And in order to see more of that, it means that people that don't necessarily feel safe or supported to go on strike can go on strike, right? The people that uh, are on H-1B visas, people that are contractors who are afraid that their bosses are going to retaliate against them, right?

“I always emphasize to people that Make Love Not Porn is not anti-porn because the issue isn’t porn. The issue is: we don’t talk about sex in the real world.” Cindy Gallop, founder & CEO, MakeLoveNotPorn, is a graduate of Somerville College, Oxford, whose background is over 30 years in brand-building, marketing and advertising – […]

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“I always emphasize to people that Make Love Not Porn is not anti-porn because the issue isn’t porn. The issue is: we don’t talk about sex in the real world.”Cindy Gallop, founder & CEO, MakeLoveNotPorn, is a graduate of Somerville College, Oxford, whose background is over 30 years in brand-building, marketing and advertising - she started up the US office of ad agency Bartle Bogle Hegarty in New York in 1998 and in 2003 was named Advertising Woman of the Year.  She is the founder and CEO of If We Ran The World, co-action software launched in beta at TED 2010 and subsequently written up and taught as a Harvard Business School case study, which enables brands to implement the business model of the future – Shared Values + Shared Action = Shared Profit (financial and social). She is also the founder of Make Love Not Porn – ‘Pro-sex. Pro-porn. Pro-knowing the difference’ - a social sextech platform designed to promote good sexual behavior and good sexual values, which she launched at TED 2009, and for which she has just raised $2million to build out mlnp.tv as ‘the Social Sex Revolution’.  As a result of the funding challenges she has encountered, she is raising the world’s first and only sextech fund, All The Sky Holdings. She acts as board advisor to a number of tech ventures and works as a personal brand/life/executive coach and a consultant on brand and business innovation for companies around the world, describing her consultancy approach as 'I like to blow shit up. I am the Michael Bay of business.' BusinessInsider named her one of 15 Most Important Marketing Strategy Thinkers Today, alongside Malcolm Gladwell and Seth Godin, and cited her as number 33 on their list of 100 Most Influential Tech Women On Twitter, and number one on their list of Top 30 People In Advertising To Follow On Twitter. Campaign named her number one on their list of Top 10 Trailblazers for both 2016 and 2017. She has a reputation as a highly compelling and inspirational speaker at conferences and events around the world on a variety of topics: her talks on the future of advertising and marketing have been tweeted as: ‘The most brilliant speech on the future of advertising ever – not the usual buzzword-laden bullshit’; ‘Watching @cindygallop slice and dice the ad industry status quo like a ginsu knife. #purewin’; and ‘There must be a DeLorean parked outside, because Cindy Gallop is from the FUTURE!’ InfluencerCon NYC introduced her as ‘Cindy Gallop is the truth Jack Nicholson told Tom Cruise he couldn’t handle.’ Together with Susan Credle of FCB and Rob Reilly of McCann, Cindy is one of three Campaign Review Committee chairs for the Ad Council in the US, helping to make the work great. Cindy is an outspoken advocate of diversity and inclusion in advertising, tech and business - she was Jury President at CannesLions 2015 for the inaugural Glass Lion awards, proposed by Sheryl Sandberg to celebrate advertising that shatters gender stereotypes in advertising, and in 2017 was turned by digital agency R/GA into a chatbot for Equal Pay Day that helps women ask for a raise – search AskCindyGallop on Facebook and chat to CindyBot on Facebook Messenger. Cindy has published ‘Make Love Not Porn: Technology’s Hardcore Impact on Human Behavior’ as one of TED’s line of TEDBooks and is currently working on a book about what the world will look like when women share power equally with men.

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CybersecurityCindyBotNew chatbot curses like a sailor, wants to help women get equal payThe Unexotic UnderclassThese Women Entrepreneurs Created A Fake Male Cofounder To Dodge Startup Sexism

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“At one point he said he was going to start a movement to fight real racism, because there are so many people like him who have been victims. I mean really? You’re a white man appointing yourself as the arbiter of what is real racism?”   Rachel Barnhart is a longtime journalist in Rochester, N.Y. […]

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“At one point he said he was going to start a movement to fight real racism, because there are so many people like him who have been victims. I mean really? You’re a white man appointing yourself as the arbiter of what is real racism?”Rachel Barnhart is a longtime journalist in Rochester, N.Y. She founded a local citizens watchdog group dedicated to good government and fiscal accountability. You can follow her work on Medium

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“People just need to stop being afraid of repercussions when they speak up. You’re gonna get repercussions when you don’t speak up.” Ayani Good, is a retired IL attorney, high school administrator, and university-level educator (Chicago, IL and Sewanee, TN). Her legal practice was concentrated in the area of nonprofit corporation law. She is an […]

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“People just need to stop being afraid of repercussions when they speak up. You’re gonna get repercussions when you don’t speak up.”Ayani Good, is a retired IL attorney, high school administrator, and university-level educator (Chicago, IL and Sewanee, TN). Her legal practice was concentrated in the area of nonprofit corporation law. She is an active board member of organizations in Chicago, IL and Durban, South Africa. Ayani has over 20 years of training and development experience, curriculum development, program management and evaluation and grants writing. She is a member of Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority,Inc. and is an advocate of social justice and human rights issues.

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“It’s hard to change hearts and minds, but sometimes it has to happen in the reverse order. Sometimes you have to bring your people home and let the hearts and minds catch up.” Elisabeth Epps, JD, is an abolitionist, activist, and advocate. A former deputy state public defender and a graduate of the University of Virginia […]

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“It’s hard to change hearts and minds, but sometimes it has to happen in the reverse order. Sometimes you have to bring your people home and let the hearts and minds catch up.” Elisabeth Epps, JD, is an abolitionist, activist, and advocate. A former deputy state public defender and a graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, Elisabeth serves as Founder/Convener of the Colorado Freedom Fund and Co-Lead of the Denver Justice Project. Both organizations are committed to freedom work and dedicated to ending mass incarceration.Elisabeth was raised in America's south by an activist mother, and upon becoming a mother herself at age 16 she raised her own son in the same activist tradition. For over two decades Elisabeth has been active in building political power and organizing around social justice, since long before she knew formal terms for the activity that would become her life's work.In 2018, she led a collaboration by Denver Justice Project, with Black Lives Matter 5280, and many community members, to host community-wide Bail Outs for Mother's Day, Father's Day, and Juneteenth. Those actions secured freedom for dozens of Coloradans, and from those efforts a new initiative was launched to restore the presumption of innocence to people awaiting trial in Colorado.The Colorado Freedom Fund is a constituent-led organizing project that pools community resources and posts bond for people languishing in Colorado cages because of their inability to afford bail. When their court cases are resolved, the court releases the bonds back to the Freedom Fund, which uses that recycled money to pay bond for the next neighbor in need. Since May 2018, Colorado Freedom Fund has bought freedom for over 150 folks held in Colorado jails only because they could not pay bonds as low as $10. Elisabeth's work is dedicated to one mission: helping our neighbors get and stay free. From both her personal and professional experience, she knows that ending wealth based detention in Colorado, in a manner that doesn't replace money bail with equally carceral options, is a critical step in earning collective freedom.In addition to her daily work with the Colorado Freedom Fund, Elisabeth serves on the Denver District Attorney's Police Accountability Advisory Committee; she worked intensely with Denver police on the most recent Use of Force policy rewrite; and organizes in other criminal legal spaces, all while fighting for her own freedom.She is a member of the Denver Alumnae Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. and is most proud of her 21-year-old son Adrian, a graduate of East High School and now a college senior, who is an outstanding kind brave person. Her son Adrian is her motivation and love for Elisabeth's abolition efforts. 

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