This week our guest is Kelly Guimont. Kelly is a contributing editor to the Mac Observer and also a volunteer at App Camp for Girls, a program that introduces iOS programming to girls in grades 7-9. We talk about how a 3rd grade teacher asking her to crawl under a desk to plug in an Apple ][e turned her into the computer nerd she is today. She explains why you need a duck to be a programmer and a hula hoop to teach girls to code.

If you'd like to help out App Camp for Girls, go to appcamp4girls.com and look for the contribute button. Lend your time or give your money or buy some swag! If you'd like to follow Kelly you can find her @verso.