Throughout August we are sharing extracts from an interview with Julia Barnickle, writer, film-maker, photographer and coach. Julia has been running her business while also living with cancer.

 In this episode we talk about Julia's philosophy of how life really is meant to be easy.

You can find out more about Julia at JuliaBarnickle.com and sign up for her Lessons from Lockdown essays here https://juliabarnickle.com/projects/easylifeproject-lockdown-subscribers/

You can find out more about your hosts at https://tessavankeeken.com/ and https://karenrevell.com/