On this episode of Previously Unknown, Maureen Paley reflects on 40 years of her groundbreaking London gallery in conversation with Matthew Higgs, director of White Columns and founding curatorial advisor of Independent. Recorded live at the 16th edition of Independent this May, the talk traces her journey from a conceptual photographer in punk-era London to a pioneering gallerist helping to shape the city’s contemporary art scene. Paley shares candid insights into her early influences in New York and London, the indie spirit of her East End gallery, and why she still favors the intimacy of chapel-like spaces over cathedral-scale spectacle.