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The interview with Irina Tarsis took place before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Irina is a Russian-speaking American, with Ukrainian and Jewish roots. The events we are witnessing now in connection with the war in Ukraine are heartbreaking. Glory and Peace to Ukraine and Forgiveness and Awakening to Russia.
Cover art: photograph taken in Kyiv art gallery/store circa 2020 by Irina Tarsis.
To support the Center for Art Law’s mission and to learn more about its offerings, please visit the Center for Art Law’s website.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 Irina Tarsis’ decision to attend law school to study art law
1:42 Tarsis’ reasons for pursuing art law
3:05 her work with Soviet nationalizations in the context of law libraries
4:15 Tarsis began studing art history
4:34 Founding Center for Art Law
5:17 Center’s growth
7:20 Center’s Judith Bresler Fellowship
9:24 Center’s legacy and estate planning clinic
12:51 clinic’s artists feature series.
13:42 Artist Molly Dougenis
14:16 Dougenis’ estate planning
15:00 next clinic about artists dealer relationships with a focus on New York law and will include resale royalty.
16:44 recent NFT case filed in Southern District of New York that involves the Guernica of India
17:30 many contracts include reference to all future media now known or to be to be invented down the line
18:00 suit involving Quentin Tarantin’s attempt to mint NFTs
18:48 future cases in art law
20:33 teaching at Sotheby's and FIT
23:09 Tarsis’ work with the European Shoah Legacy Institute
24:15 provenance research
26:50 Portrait of Wally
28:00 Center’s future mission
30:16 Knoedler Gallery story
31:45 idea for a Knoedler award
33:03 creation of a community of artists, art fans, art aficionados, and collectors and attorneys
34:30 fundraising efforts
36:13 career positions in art law
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]
By Stephanie Drawdy5
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Send us a text
The interview with Irina Tarsis took place before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Irina is a Russian-speaking American, with Ukrainian and Jewish roots. The events we are witnessing now in connection with the war in Ukraine are heartbreaking. Glory and Peace to Ukraine and Forgiveness and Awakening to Russia.
Cover art: photograph taken in Kyiv art gallery/store circa 2020 by Irina Tarsis.
To support the Center for Art Law’s mission and to learn more about its offerings, please visit the Center for Art Law’s website.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 Irina Tarsis’ decision to attend law school to study art law
1:42 Tarsis’ reasons for pursuing art law
3:05 her work with Soviet nationalizations in the context of law libraries
4:15 Tarsis began studing art history
4:34 Founding Center for Art Law
5:17 Center’s growth
7:20 Center’s Judith Bresler Fellowship
9:24 Center’s legacy and estate planning clinic
12:51 clinic’s artists feature series.
13:42 Artist Molly Dougenis
14:16 Dougenis’ estate planning
15:00 next clinic about artists dealer relationships with a focus on New York law and will include resale royalty.
16:44 recent NFT case filed in Southern District of New York that involves the Guernica of India
17:30 many contracts include reference to all future media now known or to be to be invented down the line
18:00 suit involving Quentin Tarantin’s attempt to mint NFTs
18:48 future cases in art law
20:33 teaching at Sotheby's and FIT
23:09 Tarsis’ work with the European Shoah Legacy Institute
24:15 provenance research
26:50 Portrait of Wally
28:00 Center’s future mission
30:16 Knoedler Gallery story
31:45 idea for a Knoedler award
33:03 creation of a community of artists, art fans, art aficionados, and collectors and attorneys
34:30 fundraising efforts
36:13 career positions in art law
Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]
Music by Toulme.
To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.
To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected].
Thanks so much for listening!
© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

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