In this week’s episode of Centered, Ben and David explore how the earliest lie—“Did God really say?”—still echoes in our lives today. They unpack the subtle progression from delight to distortion, distrust, and desire, tracing how rebellion is often rooted not in defiance but in disordered attempts to find life apart from God.
From pop culture’s fascination with antiheroes to our modern suspicion of boundaries, this episode examines how spiritual deception often begins with twisting what is true. They also reflect on the spiritual impact of shame, the longing to be “naked and unashamed,” and what it really means to trust God with our deepest insecurities.
Whether you’ve questioned God’s goodness or just wondered why trust is so hard, this conversation reframes sin not as rule-breaking but as relational fracture—and offers hope for a better story.

What if rest isn’t the reward for a life well-lived, but the starting point for becoming fully human?
In this episode, David and Ben unpack the radical invitation of Sabbath in Genesis 2. Together they explore the pressure to perform, the discomfort of embracing limits, and why we often resist the very rhythms that are meant to restore us. From cultural hustle to personal identity, they unpack how choosing rest isn’t laziness—it’s resistance. You’ll also hear about how grace disrupts hustle culture, and why “you are not what you produce” might be the most freeing thing you’ll hear this week.

This week, Ben and David are joined by special guest Freddy Williams to explore what Genesis 2 reveals about our identity, our dependence, and the struggle between freedom and control. Together, they dive into the beauty of being made in the image of God, the pain of forgetting who we are, and why we so often choose the comfort of slavery over the risk of hope.
They also unpack the idea of Imago Dei, the way we reflect the Creator through our work, and how understanding pain is essential to living with purpose.
From cultivating sacred space to confronting shame, this episode invites us to stop coping and start creating.

Genesis 2 gives us more than a story about the past. It offers a vision for what it means to be human in the present. In this episode, Ben and David explore how creation is not random space we occupy, but God’s kingdom. It is designed with purpose, governed by love, and filled with both spiritual and physical meaning.
They reflect on what it means to be made of dust and breath, and how boundaries are not a punishment but part of God’s design for flourishing. They also dig into Moralistic Therapeutic Deism and why many modern spiritual beliefs feel thin or disconnected from real life.If you’ve ever felt tension between faith and your body, your work, or your limits, this conversation helps connect it all. Genesis still speaks today.
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Genesis doesn’t open with rules, guilt, or commands—it opens with wonder. In this episode, Ben and David unpack what it means that the Bible begins with a God who forms and fills, who speaks beauty into chaos, and who defines what is good.
They explore how our imaginations have been shrunk by performance and pressure—and how returning to the real beginning helps us live with clarity, trust, and purpose. If your life feels stuck, empty, or uncertain, this conversation invites you to ask: What if God is still forming you? And what might He be getting ready to fill?

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As Centered wraps its first season, Ben and David look back at how God has been forming Mosaic — and look ahead to who we’re becoming as a church. From the growing vision of being a worshiping, Word-and-Spirit, missional community to the everyday ways God meets us in process, this episode reflects on transformation that happens slowly, honestly, and together.

Then, the conversation turns to how the world is shaping us — through politics, news, and the media we consume. Drawing from Marshall McLuhan’s idea that “the medium is the message,” we explore how attention has become currency, how algorithms disciple our desires, and how followers of Jesus can resist a culture of outrage by living from peace instead of performance.

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Religion can be exhausting when it’s fueled by pride and self-sufficiency. But real rest begins when we surrender control. In this episode, Ben and David unpack Luke 20’s parable of the tenants and talk about what happens when God’s authority confronts our false ownership. We explore the difference between judgment and justice, the freedom of stewardship, and why falling on the cornerstone is the only way to truly live free.
If you’ve ever wrestled with control, struggled to let go of outcomes, or wondered how God’s confrontation could actually lead to peace—this conversation will help you see how surrender leads to freedom, how humility brings rest, and how Jesus’ authority restores what pride tries to protect.
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Guest pastor Miguel Warren reminded us that Jesus’ authority doesn’t trap, it frees. In this episode, Ben is joined by Mosaic elder Andy Perlman to unpack how that kind of authority shows up in real life, where humility and confidence meet, where influence looks like service, and where grace makes room for everyone at the table.
They also lighten things up with Just for Funsies: “Who’s Really in Charge at Home?” a look at the everyday “authority battles” we all face.
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When victory comes in… so does joy. But what if life still feels like a battle? In this episode, David and Ben unpack why joy is more than a feeling—it’s the evidence of real victory at work in your life.
They explore what it means to crown Jesus as King instead of just admiring Him from a distance, why true power doesn’t ignore suffering but enters it, and how compassion—not control—is the mark of Kingdom strength.
If you’ve ever struggled to find joy in the middle of pain, this conversation will help you see how Jesus redefines power, peace, and what victory really looks like.
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When does real sight begin—after the miracle, or before it? David and Ben walk through Luke 18’s thread of scenes (persistent prayer, humble posture, undivided loyalty, childlike trust) that culminates in a blind beggar who “sees” Jesus before his eyes work and drops his cloak in expectation. We talk about “small but not divided” faith, why believing first tunes our hearts to notice God at work, and the modern “cloaks” we cling to for safety and identity.
In our Cultural Moment segment, we wade into AI and the loneliness epidemic—from frictionless “relationships” to why embodied community (with all its mess) still forms us best. We close with two practical invitations: ask Jesus for mercy and clarity this week, and name one cloak you need to leave on the ground.