In Season 2 Episode 8 of Centered, we continue the conversation on fear, division, and the way of Jesus by asking a deeper question: what if fear is not just an emotional issue, but a spiritual one?
Building on the sermon about open hands and open hearts, David and Ben explore how hyper-individualism shapes the way we read Scripture, how “perfect love casts out fear” speaks to communities not just individuals, and why hostility is more than a political or ideological problem. It may be a spiritual contagion. From enemy love and empathy to the communal nature of the gospel, this episode challenges the idea that faith is private and invites us into a bigger, kingdom-shaped vision of life together.
You’ll also hear a conversation about what it looks like to practice curiosity instead of combativeness, how fear reveals what we truly trust, and why following Jesus means stepping into relationships without needing to win. Plus, a lighthearted round of “Bible Verse or Fortune Cookie” and a practical challenge to create intentional rhythms of connection in your everyday life.
If you’ve ever wrestled with division in culture, fear in your own heart, or how to live faithfully in a fractured world, this episode is for you.