In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Desiree Motamedi, Chief Marketing Officer of Salesforce's NextGen platform, to explore what happens when AI stops being a work tool and starts becoming a way of life, at the office and at home.
Desiree has built her career across Adobe, Google, Meta, and Shopify before landing at Salesforce, where she now oversees a 12 billion dollar portfolio and is building the infrastructure to scale AI agents safely across her entire organisation. She walks Kevin through what AI maturity actually looks like beyond a chat interface: governance, hosting, access controls, and the discipline required to keep experimentation from becoming chaos.
But the real heart of this conversation is what happens when that same curiosity comes home. Desiree built her own personal operating system, uploading her bloodwork, her finances, and her calendar into an AI agent that nudges her to drink water and caught a missing beneficiary on her retirement accounts. Her 12-year-old son built a paper trading agent with a college mentor and turned 100,000 dollars into 168,000. Together they are building an AI-generated YouTube channel about cereal box characters.
Kevin and Desiree also get honest about the harder parts: the early-career fear of stepping away during maternity leave, the boundaries she had to learn the hard way, and the one thing she insists AI will never replace, the simple act of looking another person in the eye.
This is a conversation about curiosity, governance, and what it means to raise kids who are fluent in AI and still deeply human.
In This Episode, You'll Learn:
Why "are you a doctor, are you saving lives" became the mental model that changed how Desiree set boundaries at workWhat she wishes she had done differently during her second maternity leave, and the advice she now gives her own teamHow Salesforce is building governance, hosting, and feedback loops to scale AI agents safely across a large organisationWhy context, not the prompt itself, is what separates a generic AI output from a genuinely differentiated oneWhat it looks like to build a personal AI operating system for your health, finances, and calendarHow a 12-year-old built a real paper trading agent with a college mentor and grew it 68 percentWhy human connection is the one skill Desiree is most deliberate about protecting in her sonsHow becoming a parent made her more structured at work, not less ambitiousWhat the shift to headless platforms and natural language interfaces means for the future of marketing workSimple ways any marketer can start building real AI skills beyond a chat windowYou are probably not saving lives. Most things can wait until tomorrow, and treating everything as urgent only trains your team to expect the same from you.The advice Desiree gives every parent on her team now: take the time. The work will still be there. The moments with a newborn will not.AI is only as good as the context you give it. A two-paragraph prompt with real history will always outperform a generic brief.Building governance and infrastructure before scaling is what separates safe experimentation from real exposure.A personal AI operating system can catch what busy humans miss, from hydration to unassigned retirement beneficiaries.Curiosity-led learning, whether it is a trading agent or a YouTube channel, builds skills no curriculum can replicate.No amount of technology replaces eye contact, a handshake, and genuinely asking how someone is doing.About Desiree Motamedi:
Desiree Motamedi is Chief Marketing Officer of Salesforce's NextGen platform, where she leads a 12 billion dollar portfolio and is building the company's infrastructure for scaling AI agents across the organisation. Before Salesforce, she held senior marketing leadership roles at Adobe, Google, Meta, and Shopify. She lives in the Bay Area with her husband and two sons.
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