Changing Lives Podcast

Changing Lives: Trials, Travels, and Triumphs


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At 56, I’m happily childfree. Liz is decades younger and dealing with infertility. We discuss how personal, religious, and cultural expectations about motherhood affect our mental health and our favorite places to go when we need to calm our anxious minds and nourish our spirits.

I’d love to hear about your experiences. Have you dealt with infertility? How did it affect your mental health? What challenges have you faced as a parent, as someone who has tried unsuccessfully to become a parent, or as someone who has chosen not to have children?



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Changing Lives PodcastBy Wendi Gordon