Pakabutr arranged for this interviewed and was gracious enough to perform the interview himself. Payut Ngokrachang created the first Thai animation back in 1979, namely, Sudsakorn, all hand-written. Sadly, he lost one eye during the process due to excessive exposure to light during the production. He would have continued the animation a little more had his vision been intact. And due to financial reason, Thailand never got a chance to see the second part of the animation. This is one of many Thai artists, who would be lost in due time, eventhough his contribution to the Thai art history had been huge. We hoped we could help by, at least, recording this podcast, this is the second part of the interview.