These are ominous times, and difficult ones. I hope this podcast can provide some solace as we all ride in our lonely whaleboats through a storm-toss't sea.

Talia talks with Alexandra Petri, an old friend and the humor columnist at the Washington Post, about "The Ship" -- in which we finally meet The Pequod, the whaleship on which we will spend the rest of the book. It's covered in bones and the captain is crazy and the journey is just beginning.

Producer: Ilana Weinstein (@ilana_weinstein)
Theme Song: Noam Hassenfeld (@nhassenfeld)
Intro Music: by jason sigal @therewasaguy via @freemusicarchiv