Dual shredders Leanne Martz and Gina Gleason manage to save our cipher's ass more than once while dialing in to talk about their new project, Darling, also featuring Dorthia Cottrell of Windhand. They talk about picking up new instruments to keep their creative edge, how Gina learned the blues (on VHS), when Leanne found a 1968 Gibson SG Melody Maker in the trash, going from Guitar Center to School of Rock, and who has the best buttz in doom.

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Song featured is "Baptists"