In Episode 79, Mark Lutter sits down with serial AI founder and investor Bradford Cross, now CEO of Alpha Cities, to explore what happens when a Silicon Valley systems thinker takes on the world’s most complex product: government.

Bradford argues that government should be treated as a product—one that often performs poorly, iterates slowly, and lacks the discipline of customer-centric design. Drawing from two decades of building and exiting AI companies (including powering LinkedIn’s newsfeed, deploying AI in big banks, and pioneering early machine-learning startups), he explains why governance is the ultimate systems challenge.

They dig into how the Silicon Valley playbook must be adapted—not imported—to work with sovereign states; why autonomy without integration (as seen in Honduras’ ZEDEs) is a dead end; how Alpha Cities structures zone laws, joint ventures, and regulatory sandboxes; and why the capital stack for new cities must move from friendly tech capital → industry anchors → sovereign wealth.

Bradford also shares a candid look at the overwhelming operational reality of building cities from scratch—and why the US should view charter cities as the private-sector alternative to China’s Belt and Road.

In this episode, Mark speaks with Rodney Lockwood, author of Belle Isle: Detroit’s Game Changer. Lockwood outlines his vision for turning Detroit’s Belle Isle into a privately funded “Freedom City,” inspired by models from Monaco, Singapore, Liechtenstein, and Switzerland. From governance reforms and land-value taxation to Formula One racing and monorail transport, Lockwood explains how bold experimentation could revitalize Detroit and demonstrate a new model for urban growth.

Grand Bahama’s Freeport is often left out of the origin story of special economic zones—but it shouldn’t be. In this episode, Mark sits down with Dillon F. Knowles, President of the Grand Bahama Chamber of Commerce, to trace Freeport’s beginnings under the 1955 Hawksbill Creek Agreement—arguably the first modern free trade zone—through its Vegas-on-the-Atlantic heyday and the slowdown that followed the 1967 “bend or break” speech.

Knowles explains how a city master-planned for 300,000 people (on an island nearly 2× the size of Singapore) ended up with ~40–50k residents, why tourism shifted from high-rollers to cruise lines, how hurricanes and policy ambiguity compounded the challenge, and why legal certainty plus investor-government alignment could unlock a renaissance. We cover today’s flashpoints (e.g., the $350M tax shortfall claim and arbitration), outline pragmatic reforms to “modernize Hawksbill,” and sketch a credible growth thesis for Freeport—spanning ports, hospitality, residential, and high-skill jobs.

If you care about zones, governance, and city-building, this is a case study you can’t miss.

In this conversation, Joel Burke and Carl Peterson discuss the remarkable transformation of Estonia into a leader in digital governance. They explore Estonia's journey from post-Soviet struggles to becoming a hub for tech innovation, including the rise of companies like Skype. Joel shares insights on Estonia's e-governance initiatives, the e-residency program, and the importance of cybersecurity following the Web War I incident. The discussion also highlights lessons learned for other nations and the inspiration behind Joel's book, 'Rebooting a Nation.'

In this Freedom Cities episode, Professor Tom W. Bell dives deep into the world of legal innovation and special jurisdictions. A law professor turned legal systems designer, Tom shares his journey from academia to advising real-world projects like the Catawba Digital Economic Zone and Free Society’s forthcoming decentralized city. He explains Ulex—his open-source legal system—and walks us through his proposed “Freedom Cities Act,” a bold legislative framework that could turn underutilized federal lands into hubs of regulatory experimentation and economic vitality. It’s a masterclass in freedom, law, and possibility.

In Episode 75 of the Charter Cities Podcast, we’re joined by Jarrad Hope—founder of the Logos Network and author of Farewell to Westphalia—to explore the provocative idea of post-nation-state governance. Jarrad and Mark dive into the decline of traditional state power, how blockchain technologies enable new forms of sovereignty, and why decentralized communities may soon provide public goods and governance systems once thought exclusive to the state. From smart contracts to off-chain political dynamics, this episode is a deep dive into the unbundling of governance and the frontier of crypto-sovereignty.

In Episode 7 of the Freedom Cities Podcast, Mark Lutter sits down with Alex Voss, CFO of Tipolis, a company pioneering the development of new cities around the world based on private governance models. Alex shares his journey from investment banking to building freedom-enhancing urban communities and dives into the evolving global landscape for charter and free cities. From Tipolis’ new project in Brunei to the potential of Freedom Cities legislation in the U.S., this conversation offers a deep look at how private cities are transforming economic development and governance. Alex also highlights the growing investor interest in this space and why well-designed cities are just as important as regulatory innovation.

In Episode 74 of the Charter Cities Podcast, host Mark Lutter speaks with Siaka Stevens, co-founder of Sherbro Alliance Partners and the visionary behind Sherbro Island City in Sierra Leone. With the recent ratification of their agreement with the government, Sherbro Island now has special administrative status and strong legal protections—opening the door to serious investor interest. Siaka discusses next steps, including a phased development approach beginning in Bonthe Town, exploring sectors like tourism, carbon credits, aquaculture, and e-governance. He highlights the importance of governance as the “operating system” of the city and shares how the New Cities Summit helped him realize that a global movement for new city development is gaining momentum. Siaka closes with his vision of success: a city designed for people, where the spiritual vitality of everyday life is just as important as economic metrics.

In this episode of the Freedom Cities Podcast, we speak with David Ernst, founder of Secure Internet Voting, about the urgent need for innovation in democratic systems. David argues that while voting is foundational to democracy, its design is outdated, especially in an era of digital communication and governance. We explore what it would take to make online voting secure, transparent, and legitimate, and why he believes charter cities can be critical testing grounds for political innovation. From trust-building in new cities to redefining digital citizenship, this conversation is a thought-provoking deep dive into the future of governance.

This episode features a conversation with Wyoming State Senators Dan Dockstader, Brian Boner, and Chris Rothfuss, hosted by Carl Peterson of the Charter Cities Institute. The discussion centers on the concept of Freedom Cities, first introduced in national discourse by former President Donald Trump, and how Wyoming—home to abundant federal land and cutting-edge energy projects—might serve as a testing ground. The senators provide a deep dive into the economic profiles of their districts, ranging from tourism and agriculture to energy production and higher education. A recurring theme is the challenge and opportunity posed by federal regulations, particularly around nuclear energy, and how local innovation can be empowered by streamlining policy frameworks. The episode provides a timely, insightful look at how state-level leadership can drive national conversations around economic dynamism and regulatory reform.