#155 – Kate went on a chartered boat trip, with plenty of swimming and warm water filled with leaf decomposition! Then, we talk about Sarah Miller's essay about dieting and body positivity in the New York Times. As we get older, we enter into a more complicated conversation with our bodies. We attempt to tackle the issue on this week's DOWNERS.

Also, we're not sure why last week's episode didn't show up on iTunes and Spotify. We're going to publish this episode and see what happens. Maybe it will fix everything! UPDATE: It was an XML validation error because I used smart quotes. Great.

Plugs this week:

• N. K. Jemisin's THE FIFTH SEASON, and Netflix's SEX EDUCATION (Kate)
• Hand sanitizer (Jack)
• Making a salad at work (Hao)