As Advent begins and the church calendar turns to hope, Dorothy and Jason sit down with someone who has quietly embodied that word in Los Angeles for decades: legendary KCAL/CBS anchor Pat Harvey.
Dorothy and Jason kick things off with post-Thanksgiving confessions (stuffing for days, banana pudding, and Advent calendars with chocolate) before diving into what hope looks like this year – from Dorothy’s longing to return to Israel and Bethlehem, to Jason’s year of reinvention with new podcasts and a desert life in Palm Springs. Dorothy also opens up about the devastation of the recent fires and the strange blessing of still having her smoke-damaged home – and one very special gift inside: the rocking chair Pat gave her when her son Nash was born.
Then Pat joins the conversation and goes deep on faith, grief, and grace under pressure. She shares her story of growing up Episcopalian in Detroit, falling in love with a storefront Baptist church at age eight, singing in the choir, and building a lifelong relationship with God and community. She talks about how she holds on to faith while anchoring heartbreaking news, the loss of co-anchors Jerry Dunphy and Chauncy Glover, and why her daily prayer is “faith over fear.”
Along the way, they talk about:
· Why Pat calls church “a place to be loved and have a good time”
· How her parents modeled service, generosity, and community
· The importance of interfaith respect – Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, all people of faith
· What it means to be a person of faith and a fair journalist
· How Pat prays out loud in the car, starts every day with “thank you,” and listens for God in the small moments
· Hebrews 11:1, walking by faith not sight, and finding hope in a relentless news cycle
· The “look” Pat gives instead of snapping – and why, if she does snap, “it’s out of love”
Dorothy and Jason also can’t resist one more Pope moment: they react to the “DJ priest” rave in Slovakia and Pope Francis popping up on the big screen with a blessing for young people, and why this very un-nunlike vision of church would have blown Dorothy’s mind as a Catholic school kid kneeling on frozen peas.
They wrap by reflecting on platforms, purpose, and the gift of being “unburdened” from traditional TV – and how Chasing Faith is their way of using their media lives to actually lift people up.
Scriptures & Themes Mentioned:
· Hebrews 11:1 – “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
· “Walk by faith, not by sight” (2 Corinthians 5:7)
· Advent, hope, and “faith over fear” as a daily prayer
Next Week:
Dorothy and Jason talk with Sister Chris Schenk, a “radical nun” who wrote about keeping your faith despite the headlines in the National Catholic Reporter. They dig into how to stay grounded in God when the news feels overwhelming.
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