What does it actually cost to become the person you want to be?
In this episode of Chat the Chief, Insight Global CEO Bert Bean is joined by Katie Hillary and special guest Ryan Hawk, executive coach, podcast host and bestselling author of his new book, The Price of Becoming, for a conversation about what it really takes to pursue excellence in work, leadership and life.
After interviewing hundreds of leaders and coaching executives across some of the world’s most impactful companies, Ryan has seen the same pattern again and again: meaningful growth doesn’t come from a quick hack. It comes from doing the work, pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone and consistently getting a little better over time.
Why writing can make you a clearer thinker, communicator and leaderHow curiosity and asking better questions can change the way you leadWhy being uncomfortable can be a sign that you’re exactly where you need to beWhy commitment can be a competitive advantageHow to know when to stay the course and when it’s time to pivotWhy consistency matters, especially when you aren’t seeing immediate resultsHow doing hard things creates evidence that builds real confidenceWhy great leaders push people to see more in themselves than they see on their ownHow small actions and daily habits compound into meaningful growth over timeWhy the best leaders stay close to their people and the workOne of Ryan’s biggest lessons? Confidence needs evidence. You build it by keeping promises to yourself, choosing hard things and proving, one day at a time, that you can handle what comes next.
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Chat the Chief is your microdose of leadership and culture, straight from a CEO navigating one of the fastest-changing markets today. Bert Bean became CEO of Insight Global after starting as an entry-level recruiter over 20 years ago. Now he’s giving listeners an unfiltered look into decision-making, purpose, resilience and modern leadership.
Alongside Technology Solutions expert Steve Wasik and Strategic Accounts VP Katie Hillary, the show explores the principles that make teams thrive and companies grow.
About the Guests and Hosts:
Bert Bean is the Chief Executive Officer of Insight Global, one of the world’s leading talent, consulting and AI companies. He joined the company in 2005 as an entry-level recruiter and became CEO thirteen years later. Under his leadership, Insight Global has more than doubled revenue, from $1.9 billion in 2017 to $4.8 billion in 2025, and grown to 5,500 employees and 33,000 consultants worldwide.
Katie Hillary is a sales veteran of Insight Global and now oversees the company’s Strategic Accounts division. A former standout sales executive, she specializes in building systems that accelerate development, growth and long-term success for some of Insight Global’s largest strategic partners.
Ryan Hawk is an executive coach, bestselling author and host of The Learning Leader Show. He has interviewed hundreds of accomplished leaders and works with executives and leadership teams to help them perform at their best. His new book, The Price of Becoming, explores the habits, choices and commitments required to pursue excellence in both work and life.
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