There are conversations which have a clear drift, and then there are those which keep on moving without an 'exact direction'. This is one such, which draws you into its mystery, its unsure parts, its incomplete answers. And why not? We have Mustafa Chharchhoda for a guest, and he speaks vivaciously, using his arms to complete sentences, or his expressions to convey helplessness at saying things which are difficult to name. His answers are however always in the present and therefore slowly nudge into your own creation of meaning as well. Sounds mystical? It is. Even I land up saying things which seem new to me at times. Check it out. It is that kind of conversation. For the video, check www.youtube.com/c/thevaluesworkshop