This episode is one of my favorites because my guest was probably the coolest college professor I had- Dan Dennehy. I took Dan's Brand Management class at Pitt back in 2013 and the curriculum was very unique compared to everything else I had taken before. The grading involved learning journals, discussions, presentations and case studies rather than tests. And it was led in a way where the student had control over what and how they learned.
And I'll never forget when we had to turn in our first journals.
There wasn't too much direction on how to write them. So I just kinda wrote it like....you know, a journal.
I looked up concepts, asked questions, related things to each other. Crossed stuff out, scribbled, doodled. I mean, it was pretty messy.
Here's the thing, I never really turned an assignment in like this before for an actual grade. Usually we had to make sure everything was neat, grammatically correct, and the spacing was right.
So I didn't really know what to expect when we received them back.
A week or so goes by and it's the end of class. Dan stood in the front behind a podium and called out our names one at a time.
"Eric DeKlaven" he said
I don't even remember if there was a grade put down on the journal, but I do remember what Dan said to me.
"This was excellent."
I laughed a little.
He looked me right in the eye. "Seriously, this was some good stuff."
And I walked back to my seat proud, maybe a little unsure but definitely smiling inside.
Obviously we feel good about ourselves when we do good work and get complimented. But this was different. This moment might've been the first time in a school setting where learning didn't have to be perfect. It didn't need to be put in a box and was completely in my control.
I'm having a difficult time putting it all into words but Dan and that class had a big impact on me.
And since having a podcast gives me a good excuse to connect with people, I reached out to Dan to see if we could sit down and record an episode. I wanted to hear his story and some of the insights that's guided him through life.
I'm honored to share this episode and really hope you guys enjoy.