As a graduate student, Chris Atchison led a group of wheelchair users into Mammoth Cave. The purpose of this trip was to investigate virtual reality in education, but when he emerged from the cave, educating disabled students broadly became the focus of his career. He is currently both a professor of Geoscience Education at the University of Cincinnati and a QEM Network HEROES Fellow. In the past he was a program officer at the National Science Foundation, a cadet at Norwich University, and a UPS delivery driver. Greg and Chris also talk about NSF grants, mentorship, scholarships, and becoming a grandparent.