What if the smartest move for your business right now isn’t to push harder—but to pull back with intent? 

In this episode, I sit down with entrepreneur and author Chris Ducker to unpack what it takes to lead for decades, without burning out.. We talk about the season of life that inspired his latest book, The Long Haul Leader, why “more” isn’t always better, and how defining enough can unlock better decisions everywhere else. Chris shares his burnout story, the health habits that rebuilt his energy, and why doubling down on your zone of genius (while delegating the rest) raises the standard across your entire company. We also get real about legacy, family, and creative recovery—because a business that consumes you can’t be the one that sustains you. If you want results that last, this conversation will reset how you build, lead, and live.

Key Takeaways:
1. From Hustle to the Long Haul: Why it’s okay to take your foot off the gas—and the life season that inspired The Long Haul Leader.
2. Redefining “Enough” and Setting Ambitious Guardrails: A frank discussion about targets, guilt, and setting a number that serves your life, not your ego.
3. Health Before Scale: Chris’s burnout story, clinical recovery, and the biohacking habits that restored focus and drive.
4. Zone of Genius & Delegation That Elevates the Standard: Doing what only you can do, hiring specialists, and making “acquire talent” a founder’s job.
5. Legacy, Family, and Creative Recovery for Leaders: What legacy really means—and how nature, art, and hobbies make you a better leader.

Listen or watch now to learn how I’m rethinking leadership with Chris Ducker—and how you can build a business (and life) that truly lasts.

Connect with Chris Ducker:

Website: https://chrisducker.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisducker/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chrisducker

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisducker/

Books: longhaulleader.com/book

Free Business Burnout Guide: chrisducker.com/burnout

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