Daahir Mohamad from Amar Eco-Plaster joins us to talk about his beginnings in Somalia has led him to working with the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings here in the UK. Daahir talks about the fellowship he's joined with SPAB that sees him travelling thousands of miles across the UK. Shane Broad from Cardiff talks about creating alternative options as a spread during the cost of living crisis and joining Chris for a week on the recent DIY SOS build in Leeds