Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Dramatis Personae. We are joined by Nash Family Bacon's very own Mike Nash. Topics include DS9's first season's obsession with high concepts, the meaning of building a clock, having the shields on by default, and blazing our names across the stars.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode The Forsaken. Topics include the personality of artificial intelligence, showing vulnerability, whether anyone can make a show like The Next Generation nowadays, and the different ways to make a personal connection.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode If Wishes Were Horses. Topics include baseball (yes, Chris talks about a sport), the cognitive nature of fantasization, how each person’s fantasies differentiate, the dangers of living within an imagined reality, and, oh yeah, we talk about this DS9 episode. 

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Progress. Topics include Rom's salary, individual rights versus collective prosperity, Kira's character progression, whether holodeck bullets are lethal, and self-sealing stem bolts.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode The Storyteller. We are joined again by our bacon merchant friend, Mike. Topics include Bashir's new love interest, DS9's contradictory relationship with humanism, imposter syndrome, old men shouting at clouds, and The City on the Edge of Forever.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Battle Lines. This episode we are once again joined by our long time friend Cody. Topics include retributive justice, post-traumatic stress disorder, the power of forgiveness in ending cycles of hatred, and differential magnetomers.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Vortex. Topics include Deep Space Nine being so different than other Star Trek shows, Odo's bizarre biological nature, Colm Meaney's film The Snapper, and skipping Neelix scenes.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode The Nagus. Topics include characterization in Star Trek episodes, imagining Ferengi society, our education system, influencing friends, and the pope of materialism.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's wonderful and majestic episode Move Along Home. Topics include sarcasm in podcast descriptions, games being a simulation of reality, first contact not being what it used to be, Allamaraine, and sending Odo home. This week we are joined in studio by our guests Mike and Ashley. Please enjoy the sporadic tones of the heavy rain hitting our room's skylight.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode The Passenger. Topics include the psychological game of a procedural TV show, that it's good to want things, archiving brain patterns, vintage phaser collectors, and whether this is the last episode that we see the real Bashir.