In recent years, Labor governments have swept into power in most states across the country… with the exceptions of NSW and Tasmania.

But that might be about to change.

Chris Minns, the leader of the opposition in NSW, looks likely to lead the Labor party to its first victory in the state since 2007 – but many voters still don’t know much about him.

Today, national correspondent for The Saturday Paper Mike Seccombe, on who Chris Minns really is…and why he ditched brashness for caution.

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Guest: National correspondent for The Saturday Paper, Mike Seccombe.

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