Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he's trying to evolve Cisco beyond its hardware roots to a business driven by software and online services. No one company can do everything, Robbins says, which is why he has partnered with and invested in many other tech companies and startups. Perhaps the best-known of those partners: Apple. Robbins also discusses the internet of things and what he thinks of hot enterprise startups that compete with Cisco, such as Slack. 

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