Amir sits down with Brian Gonnella, artist and co-host of the podcast, “Everyone Sucks Here,” to discuss the beliefs of rust-belt Trump voters and how those beliefs can be re-framed from a leftist perspective to then deprogram CHUDS (Trumpers).

They discuss and joke around about everything from Gramsci and False Consciousness to Stone Cold Steve Austin and Amir’s COINTELPRO connections.

Could Pages Against the Machine be one big alphabet agency front?

Check out Brian’s art:

https://www.instagram.com/briangonnellaisboring/?hl=en

Check out the “Everyone Sucks Here,” Podcast:

https://soundcloud.com/user-168323668