(Not Great Audio ... Tech Issues ... sorry!) Let's be clear ... It's really hard to grow a church when few visitors show up. And the truth is, if you've been depending on your members to do the inviting – well, you can see how well that's working for you. In this episode – and the next two – Dr. Bill has a lively discussion about some things you can do to increase your first-time visitor count.

There's always more ministry than money. That's not just an inconvenience, it's an axiom that that's true for tiny churches and for mega-churches.

This week, Drs. Kris and Bill spend time with Karen Houghton, the CEO of Infinite Giving to talk about what it looks like to sustainably fund church ministry in today's world. Karen Houghton is the CEO of Infinite Giving and a Nonprofit Investment Advisor.

Karen leverages her deep nonprofit expertise to bring a modern and award-winning financial experience to nonprofit organizations all over the US. She advocates for organizational sustainability through better cash management, strategic access to curated investment practices, and increased asset giving.

If you're a church leader, you've almost certainly read a church growth book or four. You've gone to conferences. You've listened to the podcasts and read the blogs.

But still, your church isn't growing.

Believe it or not, the problem isn't the tools. And the problem probably isn't you OR your church.

The problem is you're not using the tools strategically.

In this week's episode, Drs. Kris and Bill talk strategy ... as in, how to get one and what to do next

Goal setting seems to be a foreign concept for most people – pastors included. And a leader without goals isn't really leading ... they're just marking time. In this lively episode, Drs. Kris and Bill have a conversation about vision, goal setting, and getting it done.

There's really no doubt. The church has largely last any influence it used to have on our culture. Doubtless, there are a lot of reasons for this – and this week, Drs. Kris and Bill have a particularly lively discussion on one of the key reasons the church's influence on culture has waned.

Are Your First-Time Visitors Ghosting You?

In this episode, Drs. Kris and Bill have a lively conversation about Best Practices to hang on to your visitors.

This week, Drs. Bill and Kris have a lively conversation about the cultural phenomenon ...it seems like no one wants to go to church anymore. Ever wonder why?

Need some deep and meaningful God-Time and don't know where to start?

In this episode, Drs. Kris and Bill have a lively conversation about how to design your own personal spiritual retreat.

Churches host events that are designed to get those in the community involved with the church. Trunk-or-Treat, Easter Egg Hunts, Back to School Festivals, and Vacation Bible School. But are these events effective in turning event guests into Sunday morning visitors? For most churches, that answer is a dejected, "No." 

In this episode, Drs. Bill and Kris share the five steps to turn your church events into Sunday Morning Magnets. 

With over 85% of US churches in some stage of decline, it can be easy to get stuck in "Survival Mode." Dr. Kris adapted Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs and shows how a church can move from Stuck in Survival to Ministering in Thrive Mode.