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In this episode, Carey and David are joined by author and pastor, Rick Warren, to discuss how he's led Saddleback Church through the pandemic and the political and racial divisions in our nation. Together, they also explore the opportunity for the Church to grow stronger in response to COVID. Part 1 of 2.

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John Mark Comer, author and pastor, joins Carey and Savannah to talk about the future of the Church, burnout, the importance of healthy pastoral rhythms, how to respond to criticism in graceful and constructive ways and what is at the root of fear.

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Dave Adamson, former North Point Social Media and Online Pastor, Instagrammer and church consultant, joins Carey and Savannah to talk about the future of hybrid ministry (in-person + digital) and shares practical advice on how church leaders can increase their engagement and impact online.

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Bryan Loritts, author of Insider Outsider and Teaching Pastor at Summit Church, joins Carey Nieuwhof and Brooke Hempell to discuss the faith of black Christians in America and the hard work required to lead congregations toward racial reconciliation.

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David Kinnaman sits down with Jennie Allen, president and founder of IF:Gathering and author of Get Out of Your Head, to discuss digital discipleship, the relationship between suffering and spiritual formation and the challenges facing ministry to women, Gen Z and parents. Introduction by Carey Nieuwhof and Savannah Kimberlin.

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Carey sits down with Barna President David Kinnaman for the first time in 2021. After losing his wife to brain cancer, David shares his personal journey and talks about the importance of making space to grieve, how to lead through loss and how to support hurting people as they heal.

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Jeanne Stevens, co-lead pastor of Soul City Church in Chicago, joins Carey and Savannah to talk about the importance of casting vision and identifying opportunities during times of crisis, why they don't use the word reopen, establishing healthy relational boundaries in ministry and taking the time to address personal hardships while leading.

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Hillsong's Sam Collier is back for part 2 of his conversation with Carey and Savannah. The three discuss giving and planting a church with his spouse. They also talk about the importance of healthy boundaries and the ongoing process of racial reconciliation and healing.

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Hillsong Atlanta Lead Pastor, Sam Collier, talks about church planting during a global pandemic. Together with Carey and Savannah, they discuss the unique challenges and opportunities. Plus, Barna shares current data from church planters—do they have an advantage over existing churches? Part 1 of 2.

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Carey and Savannah are rejoined by Rich Villodas to talk about the impact the Coronavirus pandemic has had on pastors’ own spiritual lives and why a deeply formed life for a leader is more important now than ever. Part 2 of 2.