In this episode the team go back to basics to discuss the reason we're here podcasting in the first place. With hot takes, rambles, sporadic bickering and even a bit of education here and there, we cover varieties, making, perceptions and definitions as we attempt to figure out exactly what cider even is.

No knowledge assumed; precious little imparted. Enjoy the ride!

Albert makes cider @RossCider

Justin just sort of hangs out at @justinwells1346