Bluecore CISO Brent Lassi joins Chris Martinez on CISO Insider to chat about the many things he’s seen and learned and worked on over two decades in the cybersecurity industry. From founding one of the first application security companies in the world, to following the evolution of DLP over the years, to now working in a cloud-native world without a traditional perimeter and how these challenges led him to Nightfall, Brent has many stories to tell. Here are just a few of the topics we get into today: how security can be a sales tool, the connections between risk tolerance and revenue for a business, and why a great staff around him is the true X factor in security success. We hope you enjoy this extra long edition of CISO Insider with Brent Lassi.

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The Kubernetes Book by Nigel Poulton: https://www.amazon.com/Kubernetes-Book-Nigel-Poulton/dp/B092P9NVMT/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1619455236&sr=8-1 

Alexa’s Input podcast https://anchor.fm/alexagriffith 

Nightfall is the industry’s first cloud-native DLP platform that discovers, classifies, and protects data via machine learning. Nightfall is designed to work with popular SaaS applications like Slack & GitHub as well as IaaS platforms like AWS. Learn more about Nightfall AI on our website: https://nightfall.ai/about/ 

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PagerDuty Head of Information Security Lisa Hall joins us on CISO Insider for an in-depth discussion on what diversity in the infosec industry really looks like — not just hiring to meet DEI quotas, but fostering differences to build strengths across the board. Diversity in thought and background among her staff is a success factor for Lisa’s team, and it leads to greater diversity in the work they do at PagerDuty. Other ideas we chat about today include the importance for leaders to make and maintain connections within the industry, and turning the restrictions of COVID into a positive in recruiting wins for Lisa’s team, like the ability to expand hiring to a greater pool of candidates and optimize for remote work.

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Security Weekly podcast https://securityweekly.com/ 

Risky Business podcast https://risky.biz/ 

Tribe of Hackers book series https://www.tribeofhackers.com/ 

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Diana Initiative https://www.dianainitiative.org/ 

/dev/color https://devcolor.org/ 

Women in Security and Privacy https://www.wisporg.com/ 

Day of Shecurity 2021 - October 28 & 29, 2021 https://www.dayofshecurity.com/ 

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In our Season 3 premiere of CISO Insider, Acquia VP of Security and CISO Robert Former discusses working as a cybersecurity leader today. Robert shares how radical transparency has helped him at every step of his career: making the right decisions for his org by accepting the right levels of risk, effectively managing data security and compliance in a Platform as a Service environment, and maintaining the connections necessary to make remote work successful. We also get into what ethical hacking really means and the importance of securing user data in his dual role at Acquia as the steward of security operations and governance. You’ll hear the straight talk with a sense of humor on cybersecurity in our chat with Robert today.

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Security Sock Monkey https://twitter.com/SecSockMonkey 

Accidental CISO https://twitter.com/AccidentalCISO 

Swift on Security https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity 

Wolfgang Goerlich https://twitter.com/jwgoerlich 

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Today on CISO Insider it’s our season 2 recap episode, featuring the best quotes and highlights from our six episodes in season 2. We gathered insights, lessons, and other valuable soundbites from CISOs and security leaders at Even Financial, Segment, MongoDB, One Main Financial, and Datadog. Hear from our brilliant guests and make sure to catch their episodes featuring our full interviews for a deep dive into cybersecurity, leadership, and much more.

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Follow Coleen Coolidge on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ecoleenc/ 

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Follow Michelle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mavaldez/ 

Follow Emilio Escobar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilioesc/ 

Follow Datadog — they’re hiring! https://www.datadoghq.com/careers/ 

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Datadog CISO Emilio Escobar joins Chris Martinez on CISO Insider for a discussion on data security approaches for today’s cloud-first world. Emilio shares how he sees infosec: creating security responses based on people and teams over brute force blocking of apps and systems. This approach allows Datadog to defeat the enemy of complexity in IT service quality, and helps build a more inclusive culture at the company. By seeing data as trust, Emilio can influence his teams to find better solutions to data security problems and learn from typical pain points. We get into all this and a lot more in the chat today.

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Follow Datadog — they’re hiring! https://www.datadoghq.com/careers/ 

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Hacker Valley Studio https://hackervalley.com/ 

CISO Series https://cisoseries.com/ 

Pivot with Kara Swisher https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot 

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The Culture Code: The Secrets of Highly Successful Groups by Daniel Coyle https://www.amazon.com/Culture-Code-Secrets-Highly-Successful/dp/0804176981/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=culture+code&qid=1622744789&sr=8-1 

What You Do Is Who You Are: How to Create Your Business Culture by Ben Horowitz https://www.amazon.com/What-You-Do-Who-Are/dp/0062871331/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622744837&sr=8-1  Nightfall is the industry’s first cloud-native DLP platform that discovers, classifies, and protects data via machine learning. Nightfall is designed to work with popular SaaS applications like Slack & GitHub as well as IaaS platforms like AWS. Learn more about Nightfall AI on our website: https://nightfall.ai/about/ 

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One Main Financial CISO Michelle Valdez joins CISO Insider to discuss how to build a community of cybersecurity. Her approach is all about resiliency and reducing human risk to minimize the impact of security incidents. We talk about how she built this approach from her long career that began in the Air Force and now includes her work in fintech in the private sector. She also shares advice on how CISOs from all backgrounds can excel in the role — even CISOs without technical backgrounds. Finally, hear about how she thinks about data security as a security executive. We’re excited to share our discussion with Michelle.

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Humans of Infosec https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humans-of-infosec/id1353458440 

Mac Power Users with David Sparks and Stephen Hackett https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mac-power-users/id458066753 

Read some of Michelle’s work from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute https://resources.sei.cmu.edu/library/author.cfm?authorid=42193 

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MongoDB Deputy CISO Chris Sandulow joins Chris Martinez on CISO Insider for a discussion on the challenges and opportunities he faces in his everyday work as a data and security steward at one of the leading document-oriented database services. One big idea rises to the top in our chat: how a risk-based approach to issues and productivity flexibility allows his teams and org do their best work as security practitioners and as individuals. This approach is based on empathy for the teams he works with, understanding customers’ needs, building a non-toxic team for continued success, and creating the right work/life balance at MongoDB.

Also, don’t miss MongoDB Live July 13-14 — a FREE virtual conference on the future of data with interactive workshops, explorations of the latest data trends and products, Ask Me Anything panels with the top minds in data, and more.

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In part two of our chat with Segment CISO Coleen Coolidge, we discuss what it takes for CISOs to be successful in ever-changing times. Planning for the post-COVID world, managing obstacles to success like investing in mental health, and building resilience and social education are among the topics we’re getting into today. Also, catch up with some of the best writing from the Segment security team in the show notes for this episode.

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Read some of Coleen’s team’s writing on the Segment website: https://segment.com/blog/redefining-threat-modeling/ 

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Segment CISO Coleen Coolidge joins me on CISO Insider to talk about what she’s learned on her journey in cybersecurity. We talk about topics like the value of doing compliance well as an affirmation that your team is doing security the right way, approaching mergers and acquisitions as the acquirer with a learning mindset, and the bravery that’s required for CISOs to excel as good people managers and good security practitioners. We get into these ideas and a lot more in part 1 of our chat.

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Even Financial Chief Information Security Officer Mitch Zahler kicks off Season 2 of CISO Insider with insights into how living through the last year of COVID has impacted cybersecurity, why concise communication is essential for security leaders, and a great story on the first CISO — all about how security got a seat at the executive table.

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Read some of Mitch’s writing on CSO Online: https://www.csoonline.com/author/Mitch-Zahler/ 

Nightfall is the industry’s first cloud-native DLP platform that discovers, classifies, and protects data via machine learning. Nightfall is designed to work with popular SaaS applications like Slack & GitHub as well as IaaS platforms like AWS. Learn more about Nightfall AI on our website: https://nightfall.ai/about/ 

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