In this episode Andreas and I talk about the early PC and Internet era and why it is often analogized to bitcoin's evolution, we talk about how money has become coopted by governments drunk of Keynesian ideology, how money is used as a system of control and how bitcoin fixes this. In the second half of the discussion we talk tech - first base layer tech and then Lightning. We finish up with Andreas' vision of a bitcoin future. Citizen Bitcoin on Twitter (https://twitter.com/citizenbitcoin) Citizen Bitcoin Podcast (https://citizenbitcoin.world)