Cory Klippsten is the founder and CEO of Swan, a bitcoin company. Cory and I hang out and chat about what it takes to start up a bitcoin company, we discuss the Taleb inspired Swan brand, how bitcoin is an incredibly positive black swan event and we riff on bitcoin's antifragility '" we get into how fundraising for bitcoin companies is different from fundraising for traditional tech companies and we go down some random rabbit holes that pop up in the conversation. Links from the episode: Citizen Bitcoin on Twitter Citizen Bitcoin Podcast Swan Swan on Twitter Music: Moon in the Sky by Hobotek