Why Australia’s spy chief should be fired

Presented by Elisa Barwick and Robert Barwick

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Back in 2003, Anthony Albanese excoriated the bill that gave ASIO secret police powers, in a fiery speech that he opened with this quote:

“Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”

“These are the words of Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich Marshal, at the Nuremberg trials. They are very relevant to this debate here today.”

The future prime minister attacked the interrogation powers being granted to ASIO in that bill: “This draconian measure even applies to those not even suspected of any offence. In other words, a person may be detained and questioned by ASIO simply because of the activities of a family friend or a university group of which they were once a member. … Similar draconian arrest and detention regimes have in the past facilitated the mistreatment of refugee detainees. Not only does this contravene the most basic of civil liberties; it also applies to children.

“This legislation is without precedent in Australia’s post Second World War legal history.

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