With the Liberals still holding a narrow lead in the polls, many in the western provinces are renewing their calls for western separation if the Liberals form government again. Drew isn't so sure, however, as he thinks the talk is mostly just bluster, similar to the Americans who threatened to move to Canada in 2015 if Trump was elected. Allan Kerpan, a former MLA for Carrot River Valley and Reform Party MP for Blackstrap, has spoken at several meetings as a spokesperson for "Wexit Saskatchewan," outlining the issues with confederation and case for possible separation. Kerpan has said he'd support separation if Trudeau is re-elected, and he joins Drew now to discuss what he's hearing on the ground and why he thinks separation is more than just talk.