Today marks 40 years since the death of John Diefenbaker, and two separate ceremonies are marking the occasion. The first is in Saskatoon at Diefenbaker's grave site at the U of S, and the second is at Diefenbaker House in Prince Albert, where "The Chief" lived and practiced law. Diefenbaker is often remembered for his unifying policies, which ranged from giving Indigenous Canadians the right to vote to appointing the first Indigenous senator and first female cabinet minister. Helanna Gessner, interim curator of the Diefenbaker Canada Centre, joins John now to discuss Diefenbaker's life, legacy, and impact on Saskatchewan and Canada.