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Christ-followers contract malaria, bury children, and battle addictions, and, as a result, face fears. It’s not the absence of storms that sets us apart. It’s whom we discover in the storm—an unstirred Christ.

Matthew 8:24 says, “Jesus was sleeping.” Now there’s a scene. The disciples scream, and Jesus dreams. “Do you not care that we are perishing?” (NKJV).  Fear corrodes our confidence in God’s goodness. It unleashes a swarm of anger-stirring doubts. Fear creates a form of spiritual amnesia. It makes us forget what Jesus has done and how good God is. Jesus takes our fears seriously. Don’t be afraid.

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Around the world, churches are working hard to make disciples, lead faithfully, and impact their communities. Yet many leaders are exhausted, relationships are strained, and spiritual growth feels shallow or stalled. Why?

In this episode, Pete Scazzero addresses a core truth that often goes unnamed: emotional health is the missing link in the global church.

Drawing from his own painful leadership crisis and decades of ministry experience, Pete explains why it's impossible to be spiritually mature while remaining emotionally immature. He explores how unaddressed emotional issues limit discipleship, distort leadership, and quietly undermine the church's witness—no matter how strong our theology or vision may be.

In this conversation, Pete unpacks:

• Why emotional health is foundational—not optional—to spiritual maturity
  
  

• How cultural, theological, and leadership blind spots keep the church stuck
  
  

• The biblical and theological roots of emotionally healthy spirituality
  
  

• What emotionally healthy leadership looks like in real-life ministry
  
  

• How redefining success can transform churches and communities
  
  

Pete challenges leaders to slow down, go beneath the surface, and embrace emotional health as God's pathway to deeper transformation—personally, relationally, and globally.

If you long to see a healthier, more Christlike church—and know it must start with you—this episode will reframe how you think about discipleship, leadership, and success.

Listen now and take your next step toward building emotionally healthy leaders and churches around the world.

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In this episode of The Multiplication Factor, Stewart Severino—Head of Innovation at The Navigators—shares his personal journey to faith and how God uniquely prepared him for a calling at the intersection of discipleship, innovation, and ministry leadership.

Drawing from 25 years in marketplace innovation and his own late conversion to Christ, Stewart reflects on spiritual formation, legacy, trust-building in legacy ministries, and what true multiplication looks like when it’s rooted in stewardship rather than scale. This conversation offers deep encouragement for leaders navigating change, calling them to hold their roles loosely and steward God’s work faithfully for generations to come.

Highlights & Timestamps00:00 – Introduction to The Multiplication Factor and Stewart Severino 
01:15 – Stewart’s role as Head of Innovation at The Navigators
03:10 – The Four Soils and how God prepares hearts long before faith 
05:30 – Coming to Christ at 35 and the impact of intentional discipleship
09:00 – Spiritual rhythms, obedience, and formation beyond conversion 
12:20 – Redemption, family legacy, and modeling faith at home
15:40 – Marketplace experience and how it shaped ministry innovation 
19:30 – Translating venture-backed innovation into Kingdom impact
23:00 – Why trust is essential for innovation in legacy ministries 
26:40 – Building change through relationships, patience, and presence 
30:10 – Multiplication as sustainability, not duplication
33:40 – Digital tools as amplifiers—not replacements—of discipleship 
36:50 – Letting go of outcomes and trusting God with future generations 
39:20 – Encouragement for leaders: steward faithfully, hold it loosely 
41:10 – Final reflection: leadership as invitation, not ownership

In this episode of The Multiplication Factor, Stewart Severino—Head of Innovation at The Navigators—shares his personal journey to faith and how God uniquely prepared him for a calling at the intersection of discipleship, innovation, and ministry leadership.

Drawing from 25 years in marketplace innovation and his own late conversion to Christ, Stewart reflects on spiritual formation, legacy, trust-building in legacy ministries, and what true multiplication looks like when it’s rooted in stewardship rather than scale. This conversation offers deep encouragement for leaders navigating change, calling them to hold their roles loosely and steward God’s work faithfully for generations to come.

At least he passed, Jess thought, holding the test paper. He’d been helping his son with math, but with house chores and extra work from his boss lately, studying together had been tough. Discouraged, Jess thought of his wife, who’d passed away: Lisa, you’d know what to do. I’m not as good a keeper of the home as you were.

On a bigger scale, such discouragement may well have been what Zerubbabel felt. The governor of Judah had been called by God to lead the Israelites in rebuilding the temple after captivity in Babylon. When they’d laid the foundation, “many . . . who had seen the former temple, wept aloud” (Ezra 3:12). The memory of Solomon’s glorious temple lingered again now, as construction of a smaller structure resumed. Ours isn’t as good, everyone, including Zerubbabel, must’ve thought. 

“But now be strong, Zerubbabel,” God said, as He did to all involved: “I am with you . . . my Spirit remains among you. Do not fear” (Haggai 2:4-5). Zerubbabel could take heart in God’s guiding presence, bound by His covenant with them (v. 5). Also, “The glory of this present house will be greater,” God said (v. 9), pointing to when Jesus Himself would visit the temple (John 2:13-25). 

We may feel discouraged in a task God calls us to do, comparing our results with those of another season. Let’s focus on God’s plan for this season, because the work and its purpose are His, not our own.

In this episode, I talk with Lori G. Melton, author of Journey with a Giant, about the practice of walking with spiritual giants from history as a way of formation. We explore slowness, silence, pilgrimage, and what Lori learned by walking with Fred Rogers, including why listening is love, why presence matters more than productivity, and how paying attention to the person in front of us reshapes faith. This conversation offers a grounded, countercultural vision of discipleship rooted in companionship, attentiveness, and trust.

Lori G. Melton is an author, spiritual director, podcaster, and retreat leader with a life-long passion for walking with God and helping others grow in their relationship with Him. 

She and her husband Bryan are the founders of the Sanctuary at Bear Creek Retreat Center in Allegan, Michigan. Lori is the host of the Sanctuary Stirrings podcast.

Raised as an Episcopalian and educated in Catholic schools, Lori came to Christ through an Assembly of God youth group and has spent her adult life in non-denominational Bible churches. One of her greatest strengths is her appreciation for diverse Christian denominations.

Lori was born in Niagara Falls, New York (Yes, one of the Eight Wonders of the World!), played competitive badminton in high school (Don’t laugh, it is a sport), and is the other half of a twin-sister combination. When she’s not writing, speaking, or welcoming retreat guests, she loves spending time with her six grown children and three adorable grands. 

You can find Lori on Facebook and Instagram, and at her website, lorigmelton.com.

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Journey with a Giant

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In Search of God's Will

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