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  • WiLD Conversation - The Trust Equation: Measuring, Building, and Leading with Intention a WiLD Trust Index conversation with Chris Shaffer

    In this illuminating WiLD Conversation, Dr. Rob McKenna and Sabeth Kapahu sit down with Chris Shaffer, WiLD Leaders Strategic Development Architect and former Microsoft director. Chris Shaffer unpacks the profound shift in how we understand and cultivate trust in today's complex world.

    Moving beyond mere information, they delve into how real trust is "worked out" through vulnerability, conflict, and genuine relationship. Discover why measuring trust isn't just about assessment, but about igniting critical conversations and empowering leaders to address hidden challenges at scale. This episode is a must-listen for any leader ready to move from the "unconscious incompetent" to the "unconscious competent" in building a culture where trust isn't just a buzzword, but a tangible, measurable foundation for success.

    Five Key Leadership Takeaways:
    1. Trust is Not Just Information; It's Interaction: Dr. McKenna emphasizes that in today's personalized information landscape, true trust goes beyond what we're told or read. It's "worked out" through conversation, tested in conflict, and proven in vulnerability. Leaders must foster environments where this interactive trust can flourish, rather than relying on one-way information dissemination.

    2. Measure to Manage: You Can't Improve What You Don't See: Chris Shaffer powerfully argues that measuring trust moves it from the "dark" of unconscious incompetence into the "light" of conscious awareness. Without concrete data, leaders are left to guess at their organization's trust levels, making intentional improvement nearly impossible. Measuring trust provides the clarity and actionability needed to identify specific areas of strength and opportunity.

    3. Trust Assessment Fuels Growth, Not Judgment: Counterintuitively, the most common emotional response Chris observes from leaders after seeing their trust results (even low ones) is gratitude. This isn't about passing or failing a test; it's about receiving a clear, honest picture of reality. Leaders with a growth mindset embrace these insights as a starting point for improvement, demonstrating courage and a willingness to be "editable."

    4. Leaders Have Blind Spots – Data Illuminates Them: Whether a leader suspects a trust issue or is unsure, the Wild Trust Index illuminates strategic blind spots by providing precise details. It offers a clear framework for understanding trust at personal, team, and organizational levels, guiding leaders to focus on specific drivers rather than broad, undefined problems. This precision empowers targeted action.

    5. Trust is the Root Cause of Culture: Complementary, Not Competitive: While culture surveys measure symptoms, the Wild Trust Index gets to the foundational root cause. Trust is the bedrock upon which healthy organizational culture is built. Measuring trust provides a deeper understanding of underlying dynamics, complementing broader culture assessments and offering actionable levers to improve overall organizational health.
    6. 56 min
    7. Bold Steps with Dr. Mark Jobe - Made Alive– Part 2

      Today on Bold Steps with Pastor Mark Jobe, as we continue our new series on the book of Ephesians, Mark is going to be diving into the topic of what it means to be Made Alive through God’s transforming power.  Join us as he explains three characteristics of those who are spiritually dead.  Today’s message comes from our series, When You Believe … Everything Changes.

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      26 min
    8. Mission 66 - Hebrews 2 Don't Turn Back Now!

      Hebrews Chapter 2 cautions against neglecting the great salvation

      available through Christ. It explains that Jesus, who was made a

      little lower than angels, tasted death for everyone and became the

      founder of salvation through suffering. He is not ashamed to call

      us brothers and sisters, sharing in our humanity to defeat death

      and the devil. By experiencing suffering and temptation, Jesus is

      able to help those who are being tempted, making him the perfect

      high priest

      29 min
    9. Our Daily Bread Podcast | Our Daily Bread - The God Who Rescues

      Beneath the rugged cliffs of Brora, Scotland, a sheep needed rescue. Trapped in a valley surrounded by steep and unyielding rock on one side and the vast ocean on the other, the sheep had been on its own for two long years. Despite several rescue attempts, no one could reach her until a determined farmer named Cammy Wilson and three friends successfully executed a risky rescue mission. Three of the team carefully descended nearly 820 feet down the cliff to get her, using a winch and a lot of courage to lift her out of her predicament.

      The determined and sympathetic farmer and team reflect the compassion of our loving Father as depicted in Jeremiah 23:1-3. The prophet denounced Judah’s sinful leaders as shepherds who were “destroying and scattering the sheep of [God’s] pasture!” (v. 1). God declared through Jeremiah that—due to the ruthless way they treated His helpless people—He would “bestow punishment” on them (v. 2). He saw the plight of His scattered flock and was deeply concerned about them. Not only was God concerned but He also said He would lovingly regather His sheep (v. 3) from places of exile and bring them to a place of safety and abundance.

      When we feel lost, trapped, or isolated, our heavenly Father sees our plight and won’t leave us stranded. He actively seeks to rescue and restore us.

      5 min
    10. Focus on the Family Minute - Our True Relational Needs

      Dr. John Townsend, co-author of the popular Boundaries series, shares about the kind of relational needs we all have.

       

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      1 min
    11. Vanderbloemen Leadership Podcast - The Secret to Being a Talent Magnet | Vanderbloemen Leadership Podcast

      What Makes a Workplace Truly Attractional?

      What sets apart the organizations top talent lines up to join and what makes others struggle to attract anyone at all?

      In this episode, we sit down with Eric Albert, Senior Executive Search Consultant at Vanderbloemen, to talk about what really makes a workplace stand out. Spoiler alert: it’s not the stocked snack fridge or the trendy job title.

      We explore what makes a culture truly attractional, the hidden factors that push candidates away, and why mission statements don’t mean much without action.

      Eric shares practical ways leaders can create a healthier workplace culture and tells a powerful story of a church that recognized its unhealthy staff environment and turned things around.

      Whether you’re hiring now or preparing for the future, this conversation is full of insights on how to build a team people want to join and stay on.

      20 min
    12. Love Worth Finding | Audio Program - How to Spot a Counterfeit

      Sermon Overview


      Scripture Passage: 2 Peter 2:1


      In the Bible, there is no greater crime than being a false prophet. It’s bad to tell a lie and it’s worse to teach a lie; but it is evil to teach a lie about God.


      Adrian Rogers says, “Don’t let false teachers take you by surprise; when you look for the devil, never fail to look in the pulpit.”


      We must learn how to spot a counterfeit teacher.


      2 Peter 2:1 says, “But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.”


      Scripture tells us that false teachers are among us and warns us of the dangers of their doctrine.


      We can identify counterfeits by their message. There are five tests we should run in our minds as we listen to a preacher:


      -Source Test: What is the basis of his teaching?

      -Savior Test: Does he believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah?

      -Subject Test: Is the primary source of his teaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

      -Salvation Test: Does he teach salvation by grace or does he try to mix works or baptism or anything else into salvation?

      -Sanctification Test: Does he teach, and endeavor to live, a holy life?

      We can also identify false teachers by their methods.


      2 Peter 2:2-3 says, “And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.”


      Good counterfeiters will lay false teaching alongside good teaching in order to confuse their listeners. Their words are feigned, like plastic; they are malleable and easy to contort.


      You can also spot a counterfeiter by his motive, which is to manipulate his people for his own profit or gain.


      The desperate need in these last days is authentic biblical teaching; God will not spare the false prophet.


      Apply it to your life


      Remember this advice from Adrian Rogers: “The world is full of counterfeits; make sure you have the real thing. There are some counterfeit Christians, but don’t you let that keep you away from Jesus. Jesus is real, salvation is real and you can be real if you’ll repent of your sin and trust Him.”

      42 min
    13. Why That Worked – Presented by StoryBrand.ai - Annie F. Downs—The Strategy Behind Her Breakthrough Personal Brand

      What makes someone trust you enough to follow you, buy from you, or even just listen? In the noisy world of personal branding, it’s easy to assume you need a slick image or a viral strategy to break through. But that’s not what people are looking for. They want someone who feels real and honest. But how much is too much to share? And how do you stay grounded when your face becomes your brand? These are the questions that haunt creators, entrepreneurs, and professionals alike. So how do you strike the right balance?

       

      In this week’s episode, Donald Miller and Kyle Reed sit down with bestselling author and speaker Annie F. Downs, who’s built a deeply human, wildly successful personal brand rooted in hope and honesty. They unpack how Annie shaped her brand over the years, how she discovered her “controlling idea,” and why she’s leaned into the very things she used to avoid. You’ll learn the role of consistency, why timing matters more than transparency, and how to craft a message that’s strategic and soul-aligned. Listen in for a candid conversation about what it really takes to build a personal brand that lasts.

       

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      41 min
    14. The Flourishing Culture Leadership Podcast - 448: Thank God It’s Monday: Building a Ministry Culture Employees Love // Doug Mazza, Joni and Friends

      In this episode, as Al Lopus, host of the Flourishing Culture Leadership Podcast, closes his time as the host, he welcomes back one of his very first guests, Doug Mazza. From leading Hyundai Motor America to expanding the global reach of Joni and Friends, Doug shares how Christ-centered leadership can shape a flourishing workplace culture that leaves a lasting legacy.

      Find full show notes here: https://workplaces.org/podcast/448-thank-god-its-monday-building-a-ministry-culture-employees-love

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      43 min

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