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Paul writes to Philemon, a fellow Christian, to address the situation

with Onesimus, a slave who ran away but has since converted to

Christianity. Paul appeals to Philemon to accept Onesimus back

not as a slave, but as a brother in Christ. He emphasizes the

transformative power of the gospel and equality in Christ, even in

an unjust society.

“AaaaAAAAHHHK!” my daughter shrieked. “DaaaaDDDYY! Get UP here!”

I knew what was wrong: a moth. Every spring, an armada of these dusty insects migrates from the plains of Nebraska to the mountains of Colorado, where they summer. Each year, we brace for their arrival. This year had been especially bad.

To humans, miller moths are unwanted pests that often fly right into your face. But to birds, well, it’s a feast. Doing a little research, I learned that the moths provide incredible nutrition for the region’s swallows. As annoying as they are, these moths are veritable moth “manna” for the birds.

I don’t know if Israel had moth migrations in Jesus’ day. But Jesus took note of God’s provision for the birds there, saying in the Sermon on the Mount, “Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?” (Matthew 6:26).

So these days, I look at moths differently. Not as dirty pests, but as winged reminders of God’s provision for His creation—and as a living metaphor for His provision for me, too. If God provides so richly for the swallows, how much more does He care for me and for you?

What if the key to leading others well starts with healing your own heart?

In this powerful conversation, Gabe Lyons—author, speaker, and founder of THINQ Media—joins us to talk about leadership, marriage, emotional health, and why being grounded in your identity as a child of God is more important than your title or metrics. From cultivating honest spaces for leaders to wrestle with hard questions, to sharing the deeply personal story behind his new book The Fight For Us (co-written with his wife, Rebekah), Gabe offers wisdom and practical insight for leaders who want to stay healthy and last for the long haul.

Whether you’re navigating burnout, wondering how to measure success, or simply craving honest leadership conversations, this episode offers hope, clarity, and practical next steps.

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About Gabe Lyons: 

Gabe Lyons is a bestselling author, sought-after speaker, and the founder of THINQ, a groundbreaking media company dedicated to exploring the intersection of faith, culture, and the next generation. Through his work, Gabe equips thought leaders to create conversations that lead to greater wisdom and societal transformation.

He hosts the UnderCurrent podcast and co-hosts the Rhythms for Life podcast with his wife, Rebekah. Gabe has written several influential books, including Good Faith (2016), The Next Christians (2010), and unChristian (2007). He is also the creator of the global Q Commons event series, a platform that fosters meaningful dialogue on faith and cultural issues, impacting millions. 

Gabe and Rebekah, a bestselling author and national speaker, released their first book together The Fight For Us: Overcoming What Divides to Build a Marriage that Thrives. Together, they have four children and live in Franklin, Tennessee.

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The Fight for Us

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What if the key to your leadership isn’t what you achieve, but how you connect? In this episode, America’s Got Talent winner Dustin Tavella shares why putting people first leads to greater impact—and how to build connections that last. 

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