Nineteen years ago Marc and Claire Headley escaped Scientology, the cult they had grown up in, and started their journey to real freedom. In Part 1 of our conversation with special guest host Michelle Carpenter, Marc and Claire share about their lives climbing the bridge, their early advocacy, South Park, how Xenu gets a bad rap and a possible answer to the question that's been asked for 18 years; "Where's Shelly?".
Show Notes
Connect with Marc & Claire - Website | YouTube | Instagram | TikTok | Facebook | Twitter | Podcast
Operation Snow White
United States v. Hubbard
Gold Base
Scientology Tax Exempt Celebration
Where's Shelly?
The Aftermath Foundation
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
LAMLM Book Club
MLM Dupes
How can you help?
MLM Change
Report Fraud
Truth in Advertising
Report to your state Attorney General's office!
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Support the Podcast!
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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Episode 225 : Claire and Marc Headley Part 1

True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich.


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*This episode includes topics on child abuse, purity culture and child sexual abuse. Please use discretion when listening.*
Shelly Snow Pordea was raised as an Independent Fundamental Baptist, and experienced CSA at a very young age, in fact too young for Shelly to process what had happened to her. It wasn't until a tent revival style sermon about Jezebels and Harlots at Church Camp that Shelly even made the connection to her abuse years earlier. When she brought this newfound information to the adults in charge of protecting her, they instead ostracized her and made her an example of what not to be, requiring supervision to even sit next to other girls her age. Though her deconstruction of leaving the IFB, Shelly shares a beautiful story of getting back to what's truly important.
Show Notes
Connect with Shelly! : Instagram | LinkedIn | Twitter | Website
The Cheating Wife by Shelly Snow Pordea
Independent Fundamental Baptists
Let us Prey
World's Largest Sunday School (Time Magazine)
Mrs. America (Hulu)
The Moral Majority
Nicolae Ceaușescu
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
LAMLM Book Club
MLM Dupes
How can you help?
MLM Change
Report Fraud
Truth in Advertising
Report to your state Attorney General's office!
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Support the Podcast!
Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!
Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Episode 236 : Shelly Snow Pordea

We watched the documentary "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace" on Discord and were FLOORED by the entire production. From the horrific story of child abuse to the sensationalized, dramatic storytelling, something always felt slightly off and prompted more questions than it ever answered. In this bonus episode we have listener and Discord Member Casey to lead her unique perspective into an incredibly nuanced topic of discussion.
Show Notes
The Curious Case of Natalia Grace
Natalia Grace Reddit
Adoption in the Media : Natalia Grace
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
LAMLM Book Club
MLM Dupes
How can you help?
MLM Change
Report Fraud
Truth in Advertising
Report to your state Attorney General's office!
Not in the U.S.? No Problem!
Support the Podcast!
Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!
Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Episode 235 : Casey

*Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about infertility, adoption and foster care. Please use discretion when listening.*
Shanny grew up in a strict Evangelical cult where her entire life as a woman was planned out for her. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the baby in the baby carriage, right? But what happens when no one prepares you for the very real possibility that things might not work out the way you want? For Shanny it looked like supporting every newly pregnant friend at their baby showers, fielding constant questions about her future as a mother, and silently navigating a long battle with infertility she never expected. Going down both adoption and foster care routes to expand her family, Shanny offers a valuable perspective with a hilarious wit.
Show Notes
2024 MLM Conference
Connect with Shanny : Instagram | TikTok | YouTube | Podcast
ShannyPantsShow.com
Fight, Flight, Freeze or Fawn
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
LAMLM Book Club
MLM Dupes
How can you help?
MLM Change
Report Fraud
Truth in Advertising
Report to your state Attorney General's office!
Not in the U.S.? No Problem!
Support the Podcast!
Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!
Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Episode 234 : Shanny Payton

Last month I got to go to Podcast Movement Evolutions in Downtown Los Angeles and record a fun crossover episode with some of my favorite podcasting ladies at Spotify Studios! HUGE THANK YOU to Spotify for the use of the space and your hospitality! And it was so great to hang out with and collaborate on content with Andrea Dunlop and Terra Newell! Our chat got cut short due to LA traffic and bad GPS directions, but we managed to get in some time to chat about the intersectional topics of our shows, and how we can support those who want to tell their stories.
Show Notes
Connect with Andrea : Instagram | TikTok | Podcast
Connect with Terra : Instagram | TikTok | Podcast
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
LAMLM Book Club
MLM Dupes
How can you help?
MLM Change
Report Fraud
Truth in Advertising
Report to your state Attorney General's office!
Not in the U.S.? No Problem!
Support the Podcast!
Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!
Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Episode 233 : Andrea, Terra & Roberta! Podcast Crossover!

Trigger Warnings : This episode talks about child abuse, kidnapping and CSA. Please use discretion when listening.
When she was just 15, Meg Appelgate was abducted by two strangers in the middle of the night from her home in California. Over the course of the next 6 months Meg would enter a behavioral modification program called Chrysalis in northern Montana where she would spend the next 3 years. These programs go by the names "youth residential treatment centers", "wilderness programs", "boot camps", or "therapeutic boarding schools" among others, but they are what we now know as the Troubled Teen Industry, a vile abusive system of control that Meg is fighting to end.
Show Notes
Connect with Meg : Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website | LinkedIn | TikTok
Unsilenced
Unsilenced TikTok
Troubled Teen Industry
Synanon
Meg's Book! - Becoming Unsilenced
This Is Paris
WWASP Survivors
Former Campers Speak Out on Trails Carolina
Project SPEAK
Out of MLM
The BITE Model
LAMLM Book Club
MLM Dupes
How can you help?
MLM Change
Report Fraud
Truth in Advertising
Report to your state Attorney General's office!
Not in the U.S.? No Problem!
Support the Podcast!
Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!
Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.
Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action
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Episode 225 : Claire and Marc Headley Part 1

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