*Content Warning: This episode deals with Toxic Diet Culture and mentions disordered eating and orthorexia. Please use caution when listening.*

When I first put out a call to action for this season's main theme of Health and Wellness, SO MANY of you reached out and told me that I needed to chat with Jen Borruso. Not only is Jen now a Personal Trainer & Nutrition Coach, but she used to be a BeachBody Hun, so she knows a thing or two about how MLMs manipulate our minds with toxic diet culture. We chat about Anti-MLM, what red flags to look for when choosing a coach, Master Resale Rights, disordered eating, and the fall of the MLM formerly known as BeachBody/Bodi.

Show Notes

Connect with Jen! : Instagram | YouTube | Website

Work with Jen! : FREE 30 Minute Discovery Call

AnchorFit Community (Free 3 Day Trial - Use Promo Code: ANTIMLM50 for 50% off your first month!)

BeachBody Ditches MLM

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

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Support the Podcast!

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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Today Platinum Chelsea joins us to talk about the newest MLM in pre-pre-launch, FermaGlo. It's a fun MLM Mini Dive episode loaded with nonsense, zoom calls, sound effects, deep speculation, professional advice and an AI song singing FermaGlo's praises. Jump in, grab yourself a snack and a drink and be prepared to learn everything we know about the fermented plant beauty product MLM FermaGlo so far.

Show Notes

Connect with Chelsea : Instagram | YouTube

Fyre Fest 2

r/AntiMLM - Paparazzi & WA Consultants

FermaGlo

PermaGlo

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Mariah spent almost her entire 20's in Amway, in a pyramid filled with family members. Throughout their time in LTD, Mariah and her husband faced a multitude of health and wellness struggles including miscarriage, an emergency bowel restructuring, and a scary mystery illness and diagnosis. The most common denominator? Amway.

Show Notes

Adverse reaction to a dietary supplement in an elderly patient (PubMed)

Health hazards caused by Amway Nutrilite (Reddit)

Amway making false, misleading health claims for Nutrilite Daily

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Samantha started using Young Living Essential Oils because she believed they would be a safer alternative to mainstream household cleaners and products. She quickly found herself with a shelf full of EO vials and deeply immersed in the #oilylife, throwing away all the "negative" products and replacing them with Young Living dupes. As she built a team, she began to understand the gamification of MLM; commodifying friendships and turning her downline into a bonus check, that she started to realize that maybe this kind of thing just wasn't for her. Plus a warning about a Scientology Boarding School PAC, and a bonus mini dive into Partner.co in the housekeeping!

Show Notes

More about Scientology's Delphian Boarding School

Parter.co Website

The Untold Truth About Young Living Essential Oils And Founder Gary Young (Head's up, this is a diss blog by a DoTerra rep)

Marseille’s Remedy (Thieves Story)

"We Are One" Young Living 2020 Convention Opener

Revive Oils MLM Dupe List

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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In our first ever podcast based MLM Mini Dive, Julie Anderson is here to help us understand the new MLM Make Wellness and some of it's shadier history. If you've been haggled about "BioActive Precision Peptides" this is the episode for you, and while you're listening, go ahead and send it to 3 friends who need to hear it too. This episode also features audio from actual public videos posted by Make Wellness affiliates, plus an update on the "Scentsy Trip to Greece"!

Show Notes

Julie's Make Wellness Deep Dive

My Make Wellness TikTok

r/AntiMLM : Make Wellness

Make Wellness PreLaunch is a Pyramid Scheme

Make Wellness's Dr. Jen

TikToks About Dr. Jen

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Who doesn't love a good and juicy MLM story about the dangers of dating in your downline? Now add Amway to the mix, and we've got a hilariously honest and vulnerable origin story about Matt and his wife Tracey, and all the sick mind games the IBOs in LTD played with them along the way. It's been over 16 years since they've relived some of these stories, so thanks for taking us on this journey and being so real.

Show Notes

r/AntiMLM : Color Street

How to Stop Worrying and Start Living

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Because we're focusing a bit more on the Health and Wellness MLMs this year, we've got an educational episode for you today. Folks on the neurodivergent spectrum tend to get targeted often by MLMs offering anecdotal promises of cures and quick fixes, so it felt important to provide empathy and context. When we're deep in MLM, we often don't take a second to really understand someone's journey and why targeting them could be predatory. Meet Tracie, the amazing mom to Rachel, a 30 year old woman with Autism. In our chat Tracie shares her experiences and frustrations with finding answers, getting diagnoses, being the target of snake oil and confronting denial.

Show Notes

LiveOps : Avoid Work from Home Scams

Follow Tracie : Instagram

The Highly Sensitive Person

Yuba County Five

2 Knit Lit Chicks Podcast

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Have you ever experienced FOMO? It's the "Fear of Missing Out" and it often plays a large part in the MLM experiences. Today's guest Lindsay is no exception to MLM FOMO and wanted to share her story of her time in Senegence. From using the large Facebook group she managed as a sales pool, to realizing that everything she experienced was dripping with manipulation, Lindsay has a lot of regrets and luckily, even more insight.

Show Notes

Connect with Lindsay : Facebook | Lindsay Helps LLC

r/antimlm - I worked for Senegence Corporate

Senegence Product Photo

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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In the fall of 2024, the MLM world was rocked when Beachbody/BODi announced they were dropping the MLM aspect and going affiliate. Our guest, Joline Atkins was there to witness every rise and fall in her 14 year stint with the company. From nearly ruining her family vacation hitting 5 Star Diamond, to simply asking too many questions, Joline ethically struggled and made decisions she wasn't proud of. So without further ado, we present The Joline Atkins Apology Tour!

Show Notes

Connect with Joline : Instagram

Notification for BODi Partners in the United States

r/antiMLM - Beachbody Drops MLM Model

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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On January 5th, 2025, we lost our friend Mike Rinder to his battle with esophageal cancer. Mike was a friend of the pod, fierce fighter again coercive control and abuse, and a advocate for all cult survivors. The legacy he built will live on and continue to help and inspire survivors to come. We will miss you Mike! COBSCOHB

From the Vault! December 2022: *Content Warning : We do talk a bit about the Danny Masterson SA case, as well as other abuses of Scientology. Please use discretion when listening.* Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to Day 7 of Holiday Magic! I am so excited for this chat, because not only is it my first ever Scientology episode, it's with none other than my friend, Mike Rinder! Go big or go home, amirite? In our chat we talk about the early days of Mike's CoS experience, his new book A Billion Years, and what it was like to work under both LRH and the COB. There's so much Scientology speak, you're just going to have to listen.

There is an additional AMA included with Mike from the Patreon episode and we get a bit deeper into his thoughts on Scientology, who's more culty and what happened to his and Leah's podcast, Scientology: Fair Game!

Show Notes

NYT: Mike Rinder, Scientology Spokesman Turned Critic, Dies at 69

Remember Mike on Instagram

A Billion Years by Mike Rinder

Mike's Blog

Mike's Twitter

Fairgame Podcast

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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