Who doesn't love a good and juicy MLM story about the dangers of dating in your downline? Now add Amway to the mix, and we've got a hilariously honest and vulnerable origin story about Matt and his wife Tracey, and all the sick mind games the IBOs in LTD played with them along the way. It's been over 16 years since they've relived some of these stories, so thanks for taking us on this journey and being so real.

Show Notes

r/AntiMLM : Color Street

How to Stop Worrying and Start Living

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

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Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Because we're focusing a bit more on the Health and Wellness MLMs this year, we've got an educational episode for you today. Folks on the neurodivergent spectrum tend to get targeted often by MLMs offering anecdotal promises of cures and quick fixes, so it felt important to provide empathy and context. When we're deep in MLM, we often don't take a second to really understand someone's journey and why targeting them could be predatory. Meet Tracie, the amazing mom to Rachel, a 30 year old woman with Autism. In our chat Tracie shares her experiences and frustrations with finding answers, getting diagnoses, being the target of snake oil and confronting denial.

Show Notes

LiveOps : Avoid Work from Home Scams

Follow Tracie : Instagram

The Highly Sensitive Person

Yuba County Five

2 Knit Lit Chicks Podcast

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Have you ever experienced FOMO? It's the "Fear of Missing Out" and it often plays a large part in the MLM experiences. Today's guest Lindsay is no exception to MLM FOMO and wanted to share her story of her time in Senegence. From using the large Facebook group she managed as a sales pool, to realizing that everything she experienced was dripping with manipulation, Lindsay has a lot of regrets and luckily, even more insight.

Show Notes

Connect with Lindsay : Facebook | Lindsay Helps LLC

r/antimlm - I worked for Senegence Corporate

Senegence Product Photo

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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In the fall of 2024, the MLM world was rocked when Beachbody/BODi announced they were dropping the MLM aspect and going affiliate. Our guest, Joline Atkins was there to witness every rise and fall in her 14 year stint with the company. From nearly ruining her family vacation hitting 5 Star Diamond, to simply asking too many questions, Joline ethically struggled and made decisions she wasn't proud of. So without further ado, we present The Joline Atkins Apology Tour!

Show Notes

Connect with Joline : Instagram

Notification for BODi Partners in the United States

r/antiMLM - Beachbody Drops MLM Model

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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On January 5th, 2025, we lost our friend Mike Rinder to his battle with esophageal cancer. Mike was a friend of the pod, fierce fighter again coercive control and abuse, and a advocate for all cult survivors. The legacy he built will live on and continue to help and inspire survivors to come. We will miss you Mike! COBSCOHB

From the Vault! December 2022: *Content Warning : We do talk a bit about the Danny Masterson SA case, as well as other abuses of Scientology. Please use discretion when listening.* Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah Hunbots and Hunbros! Welcome to Day 7 of Holiday Magic! I am so excited for this chat, because not only is it my first ever Scientology episode, it's with none other than my friend, Mike Rinder! Go big or go home, amirite? In our chat we talk about the early days of Mike's CoS experience, his new book A Billion Years, and what it was like to work under both LRH and the COB. There's so much Scientology speak, you're just going to have to listen.

There is an additional AMA included with Mike from the Patreon episode and we get a bit deeper into his thoughts on Scientology, who's more culty and what happened to his and Leah's podcast, Scientology: Fair Game!

Show Notes

NYT: Mike Rinder, Scientology Spokesman Turned Critic, Dies at 69

Remember Mike on Instagram

A Billion Years by Mike Rinder

Mike's Blog

Mike's Twitter

Fairgame Podcast

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Happy 2025! Enjoy this collection of the Best of 2024, hand picked by yours truly and you, the listeners! Enjoy!

Show Notes

Full episodes of all our 2024 clips below!

Shanny Payton

Sandy Rusk

Sarah Rathbun

Nick Thompson

Dr. Amy Saltzman, MD

Don Martin

Apostate Alex

Chris Shelton

Marc & Claire Headley

Hannah Alonzo

Kurtis Waldron

Ginger & Michael

Robyn Hyer

Cristie Stogner

Stefan & Jenna

Dani Rodriguez

Dianne

Darren Mudd

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Happy Holidays from the Triple Diamond Team at Life After MLM! Here is a fun collections of outtakes and bloopers that happened in 2024 behind the scenes of the podcast. From tangents with guests, to uncontrollable interruptions, enjoy the chaos that happens behind your favorite episodes and thank you for making 2024 our best year yet!

Show Notes

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Merry Christmas Huns! We've got a bit of Holiday Magic brewing with a special Yuletide episode, filled with all the themes we've come to love over here at Life After MLM; Cultiness, Evangelical Christianity, and Amway. Meet Hope Kraal, who as a former WWDB IBO has a lot to say about World Wide Dream Builders and Amway, including how they use faith manipulation, deceit, the patriarchy to get ahead.

Show Notes

Connect with Hope : Instagram

Hamburger University

Love and Respect

Sheila Wray Gregoire

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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DeAnne was just looking for a job online when she ran across a posting for what seemed like a legit marketing and sales position. What she actually found was an office for Smart Circle, an MLM where she would be selling discount coupons, door-to-door. In our chat we talk how Smart Circle is slightly different from traditional MLMs, what red flags to look out for when job hunting and how even when you think you can work the system, you can't out scam a scammer.

Show Notes

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

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Dr. Mara Einstein is an internationally recognized expert on deceptive marketing tactics who I had the pleasure of meeting at the MLM Conference. After working for a decade in corporate marketing for some of the biggest names in the business (MTV, NBC, Miller Beer), she left for academia, motivated by a desire to pull back the curtain on consumerism’s dark side with the goal to persuade companies to do better and give people tools to increase their power in the marketplace.

She is the author of eight books, including the forthcoming Hoodwinked: How Marketers Use the Same Tactics as Cults (Prometheus Books, 2025).

Show Notes

Connect with Mara! : Instagram | TikTok | Website

Watch Buy Now! on Netflix

Pre-Order Hoodwinked

(Not) Getting Paid to Do What You Love: Gender, Social Media, and Aspirational Work

Persuasion Knowledge

Black Ops Advertising

Tupperware and Mrs. Maisel

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

Report to your state Attorney General's office!

Not in the U.S.? No Problem!

Support the Podcast!

Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!

Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2024.

Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action

*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices