Luci Coblentz was born and raised in an Old Order Amish Settlement where she was worked so hard as a chiId it literally broke her back. At 17 she had to escape twice before she was free. However, still new and naive to the outside world, she quickly found herself in another non denominational Christian cult, run by a charismatic preacher “chosen by God himself” who controlled his congregation with heavy handed fear. There she would coincidentally run into another former Amish boy from the same settlement who she would end up marrying. It took them 10 years to wake up to the ab*ses perpetrated in the cult and leave together.  

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:40 What life was like for Luke growing up in an Old Order Amish community

00:06:30 How scaling back on worldly things led to Luke's family leaving the Amish community

00:11:24 How Luci and Luke interacted in the Amish community before connecting again as adults

00:14:19 Things that made Luci vulnerable to joining another cult

00:19:18 How Luke got involved in the church before Luci joined

00:21:11 What made this church so appealing to someone leaving the Amish church

00:24:23 What it was like for Luci and Luke to see each other again years later and after leaving the Amish community

00:29:14 How unhealthy power dynamics and toxic relationships can lead to mental health struggles

00:34:17 What the church provided that Luci had been craving

00:38:41 Ways in which the church kept members under control with a false sense of choice

00:41:39 How this church further manipulated the congregation and misused donations

00:47:31 How Luci's family's way of speaking led to realizing the church leader's manipulation tactics

00:51:33 What made Luke and Luci finally leave the church

00:56:25 Luke's experience leaving the church

00:58:10 How they navigated their lives after leaving the church and having autonomy for the first time

01:06:03 Where Luke and Luci are today and what makes them happy\

01:13:59 Final thoughts

01:16:15 Linda, listen

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Part of a very strict Old Order Amish settlement where children are seen as inherently evil and corporal punishment is the cure, Luci often fantasized about a completely different life. Child labor was so intense, she broke her back and received no medical attention. Finally as a teenager she escaped to her brother’s home only to be taken right back. Her family was forcibly keeping her in her room until she hit her breaking point and ran as fast as she could with her older brother chasing her into a neighboring cornfield. How could she escape?

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Chapter Markers

00:00:00 Intro

00:02:26 Where Luci grew up and how roles in the church were seen as a burden

00:05:06 What it was like being unable to read the Bible but being expected to follow it

00:07:52 Church leaders who unintentionally perpetuated more ab*se

00:10:56 What the repentance process was like

00:12:59 What happens when someone does try to go to the police

00:13:25 How the community treated the victim and why

00:15:43 How the Amish community has created an environment where perpetrators thrive

00:19:26 Luci's childhood and life at home

00:21:33 Luci has a major injury while working on the family's dairy farm

00:24:42 What was life like for Luci's mother?

00:26:03 Parentification in Luci's childhood home

00:28:18 "Rebellious" acts Luci did as a child

00:29:36 Sneaking in a newspaper

00:30:40 Escaping shame and v*olence with an imaginary family

00:35:32 Shame leading to serious mental illness in children

00:39:36 How did reading the Bible lead Luci to leaving the Amish community?

00:42:04 How little interactions with people outside the community impacted Luci positively

00:44:30 How those in the Amish community can lack documentation of birth

00:46:14 Luci's plans for escape

00:51:34 Luci's family violently attempts to thwart her plans

00:59:38 Luci finally escapes for good

01:03:24 How Luci felt and started to cope after leaving everything she ever knew

01:04:47 Finding a job without having legal documentation

01:07:04 The difficulties Luci faced when people found out about her Amish past

01:09:14 How Luci met her husband and joined another cult

01:11:16 Linda, listen

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From Evangelical camp kid to youth director, Dr. Laura Anderson recognized early on that something didn’t feel right. It wasn’t until her late 20s that she learned what she had gone through at the hands of her pastor was spiritual and psychological abuse. She also discovered that her symptoms had a very specific name, cPTSD. When she realized most therapists didn’t understand the trauma that comes with leaving a high control group, she made it her mission to become part of the solution and become a therapist who specialized in those types of cases. 

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Let's talk about the aftermath of being in a cult. Pulling from our post-cult guests' experiences and our own, Derek from @mythvisionpodcast and I, dive into some of the harms that can accumulate from being manipulated, coerced and powerless. Join us and ask your questions!

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BREAKING NEWS!  After months of trial and jury deliberations, the judge has ruled in the case of Danny Masterson. Life in prison with chance of parole in 30 years. This is a huge win for not just the 3 Jane Doe survivors in this case, but for all survivors of SA who are looking for justice. Joined by former top ranking Scientologist, Claire Headley, we discuss the sentence and what we think contributed to it. 

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First rule of a cult, you're never in a cult! As two ex cult members, we have lived on both sides of the doctrine. The "true" side, as told to us by the leaders, and the actual truth. In this live we will be discussing the enormous amount of information control that goes on within Mormonism and Scientology and how it is used against its members to keep them in.

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Elad, a college student searching for answers to the mysteries of the universe, found mystical answers within a strict Hasidic community. A secular Jew up until that point, he fully embraced the theology, rules and culture. Little did he know, just how controlled his life would soon be and how much scandal he would unearth once his journalism career within the community started to take off. The cover ups, silencing and shaming was too much to ignore. 

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:02:41 Understanding and uncovering systemic ab*se in high demand religions

00:03:09 Elad's parents and how the family practiced Judaism during Elad's childhood

00:04:45 How Elad found this Hasidic group appealing

00:11:14 How Elad's near death experience and diagnosis of bipolar disorder led to a Hasidic Rabbi

00:16:57 Seeking answers from a popular Rabbi

00:21:05 How thought terminating arguments were used as a powerful tool

00:23:13 Think critically but come to the same conclusion

00:24:44 How Elad began to realize the high control nature of Hasidic Judaism

00:26:30 Hasidic rules make their way into the bedroom

00:29:47 Being taught to self-shame in the Hasidic community

00:31:57 How speaking up about mental health was perceived in the Hasidic community

00:33:52 How men were permitted to study Judaism and how it aided in their goal of every Jew becoming Hasidic

00:35:16 Elad begins to unravel his beliefs

00:37:31 How Elad's encouragement of creativity rocked the Hasidic world

00:42:46 Elad gets pushback for publishing stories from his community

00:45:54 How a conservative community can attract a liberal or progressive person

00:47:09 How the different application of morals among a community can crumble a person's faith

00:50:41 How a friend's divorce became Elad's last straw

00:54:03 Feeling God for the first time again

01:00:37 How further isolation was necessary for growth

01:04:12 How Elad navigates spirituality today

01:12:48 Linda, listen

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Certain Ultra Orthodox communities are considered high control groups by former members. Today, Beatrice Weber, who was a wife to a Rabbi and mother of 10 inside a Hasidic sect, takes us through the book of modesty that they were expected to follow. She will share just how much control she was under when it came to her appearance and every day expectations. 

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Watch pt 1 here:  https://youtu.be/LGXNrG7kIec?si=0IbiLk6h7XQ0jtZO

Watch pt 2 here:  https://youtu.be/6MXpJm_aRoU?si=L67psW-uh-nOcwJX

Resources for help leaving Orthodox communities 

Footsteps https://www.footstepsorg.org/

Rights and Religion Forum https://rarforum.org/

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After decades of suffering in silence and submission in the Hasidic community with 10 children, Beatrice carefully plotted her escape. With some of her children already adults, she snuck out with the youngest 4 who were still very young. The community and older children immediately turned on her and tried to take the youngest kids away in court. After years of custody battles, she kept access to her kids, but the court ordered one son stay in a Hasidic school which gave him no secular education. Beatrice sued the NYC for not regulating the religious Hasidic schools and won! This is how she deconstructed her ideology.

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Resources for help leaving Orthodox communities 

Footsteps https://www.footstepsorg.org/

Rights and Religion Forum https://rarforum.org/

Marlene Winell Journey Free- Recover From Toxic Religions https://www.journeyfree.org/

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:47 Part 1 recap

00:05:33 Getting the court system involved for protection from her ex-husband and even chiIdren

00:10:04 The difficulties of having to leave some chiIdren behind

00:11:31 Beatrice makes a big mistake in court

00:16:21 How Chavie's case impacted others and how Beatrice regained custody

00:19:19 Beatrice can't ignore the corruption any longer and decides to heal from it

00:20:50 It's never really "just hair"

00:21:33 The continuous journey of healing

00:22:57 Tackling the lack of education in the Hasidic community

00:24:27 Discrepancies in what the courts are saying about Beatrice's case

00:25:33 The school refuses to accept Beatrice's son again

00:27:38 How Beatrice's case changed the school system

00:29:58 Beatrice's children's varying reactions to their mother not just leaving the community, but also making large scale change

00:31:35 Has Beatrice ever talked to her older chiIdren about what happened?

00:33:20 Why it's sometimes easier for people stay in their oppressive communities

00:35:21 What made Beatrice leave the Hasidic community altogether?

00:38:22 TW: ED

00:40:30 How others who have left high demand religions helped Beatrice heal

00:45:15 How people in the Hasidic community use Beatrice's story to perpetuate harmful ideologies

00:46:39 Things Beatrice misses from being in the community

00:50:05 Losing your community for your freedom

00:52:22 What makes Beatrice feel fulfilled?

00:54:32 Huffington Post article sneak peek

00:58:38 Exploring yourself as you are, not as someone has told you to be

01:01:20 Resources for leaving high demand religious groups

01:05:00 Linda, listen

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Beatrice Weber was told her only goal in life should be getting married to a respectable Hasidic man and bearing as many children as possible. After being “rebellious” as a young teen, she was sent abroad to a strict religious school where she was meant to learn to behave. As soon as she returned, her parents set her on a path to marry a Torah scholar for a hefty price. She was only 18 years old. She would then not be allowed to use birth control and go on to having 10 children. Suffocated in the lifestyle with little to no help from her husband, she began plotting her escape. 

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Resources for help leaving Orthodox communities 

Footsteps https://www.footstepsorg.org/

Rights and Religion Forum https://rarforum.org/

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Website: https://beatriceweber.com/about/

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:35 Beatrice's conservative community

00:05:40 What it was like growing up with extra rules and eating by stricter kosher standards

00:10:16 The consequences for eating the wrong color popscicle

00:14:12 Dressing modestly to the extreme

00:18:03 Interactions with the opposite s*x and how birthday celebrations where considered "immodest"

00:22:15 How isolated was Beatrice's chiIdhood?

00:23:50 How to Holocaust influences modern Jewish life

00:26:15 How the community's set up perpetuates corporal punishment 

00:27:59 The Ritual Bath and its problematic nature

00:31:08 Lack of s*x education in the Hasidic community

00:32:22 Beatrice's family moves and changes her education

00:35:29 How the focus on actions prevents original thinking

00:38:03 The preceived importance of lingeage in the Jewish community and how long Beatrice was at seminary school

00:39:32 Beatrice prepares for marriage and how she felt about it

00:41:59 Beatrice's experience with the Hasidic Jewish marriage process

00:47:55 S*x education and new rules after marriage

00:54:19 The rules around s*x and Beatrice's ex-husbands controlling nature

00:56:55 How did Beatrice manage with 10 kids?

00:59:06 Getting birth control in the Hasidic Jewish community

01:01:44 Beatrice rebells and goes to therapy

01:05:45 When did Beatrice start to question?

01:08:58 Beatrice realizes the only option

01:10:46 How Beatrice had to time her escape to create the best outcome for her chiIdren

01:13:24 Linda, listen

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