Join us for an insightful conversation with Dr. Hilary McBride, psychologist and author of "Holy Hurt," as we explore spiritual trauma, healing, and parenting. Dr. McBride shares her expertise on embodiment, the cyclical nature of healing, and the importance of repair in relationships.

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Check out the Jordan Harbinger Show, a podcast I've been diving into for the last several years. Jordan has interviewed some fascinating guests from spies to whistle blowers, including some previous guests from the Preacher Boys. I've been hooked and I'm sure you will be too!

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In this special crossover episode, Eric Skwarczynski, host of the Preacher Boys Podcast, and Peter Bell, host of the Sons of Patriarchy Podcast, come together for an in-depth conversation about exposing abuse within religious institutions. From the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement to the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CREC) to the bizarre teachings of Doug Wilson, this discussion dives into the challenges of addressing spiritual abuse, the personal toll of advocacy work, and the shared mission of amplifying survivor voices.

Topics:

• The origins of both podcasts and their focus on exposing abuse in fundamentalist and reformed circles.
• Personal experiences that led Eric and Peter to start their respective shows.
• The intersection of theology, culture, and abuse in religious communities.
• How survivors are finding their voices and building supportive communities.
• The challenges of being a public advocate for change in faith-based spaces.

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This week, former Thomas Road Baptist Church (TRBC) pastor Sergio Guardia was found guilty on all three counts, including Stalking and Breaking and Entering, according to court documents. The case, which has garnered significant local attention, reveals disturbing patterns—not only in Guardia’s actions but also in TRBC’s failure to protect the victim and its continued support of the convicted abuser.

Marie Columna, the victim, courageously testified in court this week, delivering her witness statement with the support of several victims’ advocates who traveled to stand by her side.

One of the most shocking aspects of the case is that Guardia was caught on camera breaking into Columna’s home. Despite this clear evidence, TRBC failed to stand with the survivor. Instead, they treated her poorly and chose to support the convicted pastor.

This is about more than just one case; there appear to be other victims and a larger story that needs to be investigated. The way TRBC handled this is deeply concerning—not just for Columna, but for anyone who has suffered abuse within their religious institutions.

The case raises even greater concerns due to TRBC’s close ties to Liberty University, which was recently fined $14 million for its mishandling of sexual assault cases. This apparent pattern of neglect and institutional protection of abusers demands further investigation.

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Right now, Washington is one of just five states that does not require clergy to report child abuse.

Senator Noel Frame wants to change that.

She has introduced Senate Bill 5375, a bill that would make clergy mandatory reporters, with no exceptions for what is said during a religious confession. This is a controversial stance for faith groups like the Washington State Catholic Conference, which strongly oppose it.

I spoke with Sen. Frame today to learn why bills like this have historically stalled, her response to critics of the bill, and how her own experience as a survivor highlights the importance of mandatory reporting. I also asked her how people across the country can support this bill.

This is, of course, a very busy time for Senator Frame, and I really appreciate her taking a few minutes today to step aside and discuss SB 5375.

For context and clarity, this call took place today, March 11th, at 5:37 PM. The call lasted 8 minutes, and her answers are completely unedited.

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In March 2024, Trieber's ministry settled a lawsuit for an undisclosed amount after two women came forward with horrifying claims of abuse and cover-ups involving his brother-in-law, Mike Strouf.

Fast forward to February 2025: Strouf’s name was removed from marquee signs at Santa Clara’s Magical Bridge Playground after information about the lawsuit and victim stories was sent to city officials. But instead of showing remorse or addressing the abuse, Trieber took the pulpit to complain about how hard it is for him to deal with lawsuits.

I break down his troubling response, including his denial of covering up abuse and his attacks on critics—calling them “liars,” “sodomites,” and “lesbians.” Despite his loud proclamations, the victims’ stories paint a very different picture: one where Trieber protected abusers and silenced victims.

And here’s the kicker: just days ago, Santa Clara Mayor Lisa Gillmor honored Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church with an award, completely ignoring decades of allegations and lawsuits tied to his ministry. It’s yet another example of how institutions sweep serious claims under the rug when it’s convenient.

Join me as I unpack this disturbing story and expose the tactics used by leaders like Trieber to avoid accountability.

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In this episode of the Preacher Boys podcast, Eric Skwarczynski sits down with Dr. Diane Langberg, a psychologist with over 50 years of experience, to discuss her new book, "When the Church Harms God's People." Dr. Langberg shares her insights on trauma, abuse within faith communities, and the importance of prioritizing individual well-being over institutional success. Drawing from her extensive experience, she offers practical advice for pastors, ministry leaders, and individuals seeking to create safer and healthier church environments.

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Eric Skwarczynski continues his conversation with Hannah St. George, a survivor of religious fundamentalism. Hannah shares more harrowing details of her experiences within Bible Baptist Church in Fairbanks, Alaska, focusing on the period leading up to her marriage and the disturbing secrets she began to uncover. Hannah discusses the controlling dynamics within her family, the rigidity of the church, and its shocking mishandling of sexual abuse cases.

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Marc Maron’s comedy special, End Times Fun, touches on a very real issue – the way many evangelical Christians view the end of the world. In this clip, which recently went viral on TikTok, Maron breaks down why evangelical end-times beliefs scare him, especially since many of these believers hold political power.

In this episode, Eric and Tia Levings dive deep into this topic, reacting to Maron’s take and discussing Tia’s recent article, Evangelical MAGAs Want an Apocalypse to Wipe Out Unhumans. We explore how end-times theology influences everything from government policy to environmental issues and even personal health choices.

As two ex-fundamentalists, we bring firsthand experience to this conversation, and let’s just say… we have thoughts.

Topics Covered in This Episode:

– Marc Maron’s thoughts on evangelicals and end-times prophecy

– The connection between fundamentalism, politics, and climate denial

– Why some evangelicals want the world to end

– The real-life consequences of end-times theology

🎙 About Our Guest:

Tia Levings (@TiaLevingsWriter) is a writer and speaker who exposes the realities of Christian fundamentalism and evangelical patriarchy. She’s been featured in Salon, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, and the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People. Her upcoming memoir, A Well-Trained Wife, released on August 6, 2024.

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