Rich and Ruben talk about the last decade and how various events affected and shaped their lives, beliefs, and very being. 

Spoiler Alert: You Can’t! Enjoy! 

While still at Pastor’s meetings Rich and Ruben finally got to sit down with friend and colleague Joe Pieretti. After defining the “Billy Graham Rule” they discuss it’s implications in their busy ministry lives. Gender, boundaries, professionalism, and equality all play in.

In light of pastors appreciation month, Rich, Ruben, and Josias Flores discuss what it’s like to live and work as Pastors in today’s world. Where is the balance between going the extra mile and not burning out? 

Rich and Ruben start a conversation on Purpose and Motivation in life. 

Are we thriving or surviving? Do our intentions behind what we do matter? Why we are talking about Apple in this episode (lol)?  Are we in this world "for ourselves" (narcissism) or "for others" (altruism)?...  This and more in this episode!

Pastors and philosophers can go on about the concept of suffering and it’s purpose within a worldview. As They discuss an incident that left Rich completely helpless, things get practical. Links to pictures of Rich’s wounds :

1. face bandages: https://www.facebook.com/1424695944/posts/10220094340175161?sfns=mo 

2. Very Graphic Images of Skin Grafts: https://www.facebook.com/1424695944/posts/10220094289093884?sfns=mo 

3. Slightly less graphic images of his new skin https://www.facebook.com/1424695944/posts/10220094289093884?sfns=mo 

Rich and Ruben embark into a deep conversation about Self Validation. (A topic that needs no introduction)

CHECK out our identical shorts PICTURE (lol): https://bit.ly/2zo7FjU

if you’ve ever been frustrated by “Us v.s. Them” rhetoric at work, home, church, family gatherings, or Social Media, this episode is for you. Ruben and Rich talk with colleague and friend Ross Knight about how to “ substantively “agree to disagree.” Ross gives solid tips about about building deep relational ties with those on the opposite side of your favorite hot button issue.