Today, I dip back into the archives to bring you a classic interview from the first year of this podcast. In Episode 21 (Aug 2017) I interviewed Ladar Levison, the founder of the secure email service Lavabit. He started Lavabit in 2004 as one of the first truly secure, end-to-end encrypted email services focused on the privacy of users, almost ten years before Proton Mail launched. But when the FBI came (literally) knocking in 2013 asking him to subvert the encryption so that they could monitor his users (in particular a guy named Edward Snowden), Ladar decided to shut down Lavabit instead of complying. Ladar relaunched Lavabit in 2021 and I interviewed him that summer about his company, the right to privacy, the story of the shutdown, and much more. It’s as relevant today as it was then.

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