Dr. Klaus Lackner was one of the first scientists to explore how to remove excess CO2 from the atmosphere. In this wide-ranging masterclass interview, Klaus and host Dan Miller discuss the feasibility, scalability, safety, and cost of large-scale Direct Air Capture (DAC) and sequestration of atmospheric CO2.
Klaus Lackner is the director of Center for Negative Carbon Emissions and a professor in the School of Sustainable Engineering and the
Built Environment of the Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering at Arizona State University.
Link to Klaus' homepage: https://globalfutures.asu.edu/cnce/profile/kslackne/
Link to Climate Chat Club YouTube homepage: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3BXcpYFCzTndJ9Fisi32qg
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:50 Start of Interview
00:02:16 Klaus' background/Why carbon capture?
00:06:03 Moisture-swing carbon capture
00:09:18 Does carbon capture use too much energy?
00:10:51 Is there room underground for all our CO2?
00:12:53 Iceland
00:16:18 Other CO2 storage techniques including saline aquifers
00:19:09 Markets for CO2
00:20:07 Incentives to capture CO2
00:22:20 CO2-to-fuels
00:26:05 Two markets for air capture
00:26:45 1 part per million = 15 gigatons of CO2
00:27:26 Is carbon capture real?
00:28:59 Getting down to $50/ton
00:34:07 Is carbon capture environmentally safe?
00:36:51 The scale needed
00:38:58 $2 trillion/year for 40 gigatons/year
00:41:54 Is carbon capture a moral hazard?
00:46:19 "Natural" CO2 capture including planting trees
00:52:04 Beginning of Audience Q&A
00:52:16 CO2 into cement
00:54:14 What to do now to scale CO2 capture?
00:57:48 Area needed for natural CO2 capture using micro-algae
01:02:00 What are "Mechanical Trees"?
01:06:32 How to support scaling of CO2 capture
01:12:24 Impacts on oxygen and soils
01:16:09 What about ocean capture of CO2?
01:19:48 Embodied carbon and energy in CO2 capture systems
01:30:31 CO2 capture from air vs. ocean
01:33:29 CO2 capture prizes
01:35:22 Biomass solutions
01:41:42 How to convince people opposed to carbon capture?
01:45:03 Summing up
01:47:17 Out-tro
01:47:29 END